Breakdown of Depois que ela caiu, o cotovelo dela ficou vermelho, e o joelho também.
Questions & Answers about Depois que ela caiu, o cotovelo dela ficou vermelho, e o joelho também.
Why is it depois que and not depois de?
Depois que is used before a full clause with a conjugated verb:
- depois que ela caiu = after she fell
Depois de is used before a noun or an infinitive:
- depois da queda = after the fall
- depois de cair = after falling
So here, because ela caiu is a complete clause, depois que is the correct choice.
What tense is caiu?
Why is caiu written without an accent mark?
Because in modern Portuguese spelling, caiu has no accent.
This often surprises learners because it looks like it might need one, but forms like:
- caiu
- saiu
- construiu
are written without an accent.
What does ficou vermelho mean exactly?
Ficar often means to become or to get.
So:
- ficou vermelho = became red / got red
This is different from estava vermelho, which would mean was red and describe a state rather than the change into that state.
Here, ficou vermelho emphasizes the result after the fall.
Why does Portuguese use ficar here instead of a verb like to be?
Because Portuguese often uses ficar to show a change of condition.
Examples:
- ficou triste = became sad
- ficou cansado = got tired
- ficou vermelho = became red
If you used estar, you would usually be describing the condition itself:
- o cotovelo estava vermelho = the elbow was red
So ficou is natural here because the elbow changed after the fall.
Why is it o cotovelo dela instead of seu cotovelo?
Both are possible, but dela is often clearer.
- o cotovelo dela = her elbow
- seu cotovelo can mean her elbow, but it can also mean your elbow or even his/their elbow depending on context
Because seu/sua can be ambiguous, Brazilian Portuguese very often prefers:
- dele = his
- dela = her
So o cotovelo dela is a very natural, clear choice.
Could dela be omitted?
Yes, very often it could.
A Brazilian Portuguese speaker might also say:
- Depois que ela caiu, o cotovelo ficou vermelho, e o joelho também.
Because the subject is already ela, it is usually understood that the elbow and knee are hers.
Portuguese commonly omits the possessive with body parts when the owner is obvious from context.
Why is there a definite article before the body parts: o cotovelo, o joelho?
Portuguese often uses the definite article with body parts where English uses a possessive.
So Portuguese may say:
- o cotovelo
- o joelho
where English would usually say:
- her elbow
- her knee
This is very normal in Portuguese, especially when it is already clear whose body part is being discussed.
Why is it vermelho and not vermelha or vermelhos?
Why doesn’t the second part repeat the verb? Why just o joelho também?
This is a very common kind of ellipsis in Portuguese.
The full version would be:
- o joelho também ficou vermelho
But because the verb phrase is already understood, Portuguese can shorten it to:
- o joelho também
This works just like English sometimes does:
- Her elbow got red, and her knee too.
Would também go somewhere else in the sentence?
Yes, it can move depending on emphasis, but o joelho também is very natural.
Possible versions include:
- o joelho também
- também o joelho (more marked/literary)
- o joelho ficou vermelho também
In this sentence, o joelho também sounds simple and natural.
Is the comma before e necessary?
Usually, no. In standard Portuguese, you normally do not put a comma before e when simply joining two parts of a sentence.
So a more neutral version would be:
- Depois que ela caiu, o cotovelo dela ficou vermelho e o joelho também.
The comma before e is not impossible, but it feels more like a pause for style or emphasis than a basic requirement.
Could ela be omitted in depois que ela caiu?
Is there a more compact way to say the same thing?
Yes. A more compact version would be:
- Depois que ela caiu, o cotovelo e o joelho dela ficaram vermelhos.
That version repeats less and combines the two body parts into one subject.
The original sentence is still perfectly understandable and natural, especially because it highlights the elbow first and then adds the knee too.
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