Breakdown of El retal no parece nuevo que digamos.
Questions & Answers about El retal no parece nuevo que digamos.
What does retal mean here?
In Spain, retal usually means a scrap, offcut, or remnant of fabric or other material. It is a masculine noun, which is why the sentence has el retal and nuevo, not la retal or nueva.
So if the meaning has already been given to you, the important grammar point is that retal is grammatically masculine singular.
Why is it el retal and not un retal?
Why is it parece instead of es or está?
Because parecer means to seem or to look.
- El retal parece nuevo = The scrap seems/looks new
- El retal es nuevo = The scrap is new
- El retal está nuevo = The scrap is like new / still in very good condition
So parece is used because the speaker is talking about appearance or impression, not stating a fact directly.
Why is it nuevo and not nueva?
Because nuevo agrees with retal, and retal is masculine singular.
In Spanish, adjectives usually agree in gender and number with the noun they describe:
- el retal nuevo
- la tela nueva
- los retales nuevos
Even though nuevo comes after parece, it still matches the subject el retal.
What does que digamos mean in this sentence?
Que digamos is a very common idiomatic expression. In a sentence like this, it means something like:
- exactly
- really
- by any means
- so to speak, depending on context
Here, no parece nuevo que digamos means roughly:
- It doesn’t exactly look new
- It doesn’t look especially new
- It’s not what you’d call new
So que digamos adds a slightly ironic or understated tone. It often appears after a negative statement.
Is que digamos a fixed expression, or should I understand it literally as that we say?
It is best to learn it as a fixed expression.
Grammatically, digamos is the present subjunctive of decir in the nosotros form, but in this phrase you usually do not translate it word for word. Native speakers use que digamos as an idiomatic comment on what was just said.
So although it comes from the verb decir, in practice you should treat no ... que digamos as a chunk meaning something like:
- not exactly
- not really
- not what you’d call ...
Why is the verb in the subjunctive: digamos?
Because this expression comes from a kind of elliptical formula, where the subjunctive gives a more tentative or formulaic sense, similar to let’s say.
But for a learner, the key point is this:
- Yes, digamos is the present subjunctive
- In que digamos, it works as part of an idiomatic set phrase
- You usually do not need to analyze it every time you see it
So this is one of those cases where memorizing the whole expression is more useful than trying to build it from scratch.
Does no parece nuevo que digamos mean the same as no parece muy nuevo?
They are similar, but not identical.
- No parece muy nuevo = It doesn’t seem very new
- No parece nuevo que digamos = It doesn’t exactly seem new
The version with que digamos sounds a bit more idiomatic and often slightly more expressive, ironic, or understated. It suggests something like: calling it new would be a stretch.
So que digamos adds nuance, not just information.
Can que digamos be used with other adjectives too?
Why is there no muy here? Would no parece muy nuevo be more normal?
No parece muy nuevo is absolutely normal and probably more straightforward for a learner.
But no parece nuevo que digamos is also natural, especially in spoken or informal written Spanish, and it has a more idiomatic tone.
Compare:
- No parece muy nuevo = neutral, direct
- No parece nuevo que digamos = more colloquial, more nuanced, often a bit dry or understated
So the version in your sentence is not just about degree; it also gives the sentence some personality.
Is the sentence negative because of no, or does que digamos also make it negative?
The sentence is negative because of no:
- El retal no parece nuevo...
The phrase que digamos does not create the negation by itself. Instead, it usually appears inside a negative context and reinforces or shades that negative idea.
So the core statement is:
- El retal no parece nuevo = The scrap doesn’t seem new
Then que digamos adds the nuance:
- El retal no parece nuevo que digamos = The scrap doesn’t exactly seem new
Could I say El retal parece no ser nuevo instead?
Yes, but it sounds more formal, more analytical, and less natural in everyday conversation.
Compare:
- El retal no parece nuevo. = natural, common
- El retal parece no ser nuevo. = grammatically correct, but more formal or literary
And if you add que digamos, the more natural version is the original one:
- El retal no parece nuevo que digamos.
Do I need commas around que digamos?
Usually, no commas are necessary in a sentence like this:
- El retal no parece nuevo que digamos.
Since que digamos is closely attached to the adjective phrase, it is often written without commas.
That said, punctuation can vary a little for rhythm or style, especially in informal writing, but the version without commas is completely normal.
Is this expression common in Spain specifically?
Yes. Que digamos is a normal and recognizable colloquial expression in Spain. Learners will hear it in everyday speech and see it in informal writing.
It is not extremely formal, and it often carries a conversational tone. So it is useful to understand, even if you do not use it right away yourself.
A good learner takeaway is:
- no + statement + que digamos often means not exactly / not really / not what you’d call ...
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