Questions & Answers about Den tredje bussen kommer.
Why is it den tredje bussen and not just tredje buss?
Because Norwegian usually uses double definiteness when a noun is definite and has an adjective or ordinal in front of it.
So:
- buss = bus
- bussen = the bus
- den tredje bussen = the third bus
You need:
- den before the adjective/ordinal
- the definite ending -en on the noun
This is normal in Norwegian.
If there were no adjective or ordinal, you would usually just say bussen.
Why is it den and not det?
What kind of word is tredje?
Tredje is an ordinal number. Ordinals are words like:
- første = first
- andre = second
- tredje = third
- fjerde = fourth
They are used when you are talking about position or order, not quantity.
So tre means three, but tredje means third.
Does tredje change form?
Usually, tredje stays tredje in common use.
For a learner, the important thing here is that:
- den tredje bussen
- det tredje huset
- de tredje bussene
all use tredje.
So unlike many ordinary adjectives, this ordinal does not create much extra visible change here. The main thing you need to notice in this sentence is the definite pattern around it.
What exactly does kommer mean here?
Kommer is the present tense of å komme.
In English, it can match different ideas depending on context:
- comes
- is coming
- arrives
So this sentence could mean something like:
- the third bus comes
- the third bus is coming
- the third bus arrives
Norwegian present tense often covers both simple present and present progressive, where English makes a bigger distinction.
Why is the verb placed after the whole phrase Den tredje bussen?
Because Den tredje bussen is the subject, and kommer is the finite verb.
In a basic Norwegian main clause, the finite verb is normally in second position. This is the well-known V2 pattern.
Here, the first element is the whole subject phrase:
Den tredje bussen + kommer
So the verb comes right after that phrase.
You can see the same rule if another element comes first:
- Nå kommer den tredje bussen.
Here nå is first, so kommer still stays in second position.
Does den tredje bussen mean the third bus in order, or could it mean bus number 3?
Most naturally, den tredje bussen means the third bus in a sequence or order.
For example:
- the third bus to arrive
- the third bus in a line
- the third bus on a list
If you mean route number 3, Norwegian would more naturally say something like:
- buss nummer tre
- 3-bussen
So this sentence is usually about position, not bus number.
Can I leave out den and just say tredje bussen?
How do you pronounce tredje?
A simple learner-friendly approximation is TRED-ye.
A few helpful points:
- the first part sounds like tred
- the dj combination is not pronounced like a hard English j in all dialects
- many learners hear it as something close to TRED-ye
You do not need perfect dialect pronunciation right away. If you say something close to TRED-ye, people will usually understand you.
Is this a natural sentence in Norwegian?
Yes, it is completely natural.
It sounds like something you would say when identifying one bus among several, especially by order:
- maybe several buses are expected
- maybe you are counting which one arrives next
- maybe you are comparing a first, second, and third bus
So grammatically and stylistically, the sentence is very normal.
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