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The preposition nach always takes the dative case when it means after (in time).
The noun Training in German is:
- gender: neuter
- nominative singular: das Training
- dative singular: dem Training
So:
- nach + dative → nach dem Training
Der / den / das would be wrong here because they are not dative singular neuter:
- der = nominative masculine or dative feminine
- den = accusative masculine or dative plural
- das = nominative/accusative neuter, not dative
So nach dem ersten Training is the only correct form here.
This is about adjective endings in German.
Structure: preposition + article + adjective + noun
- nach → dative
- dem → definite article, dative singular (neuter)
- After a definite article (dem / der / den etc.), adjectives take the weak declension, and in the dative singular for all genders the adjective ending is -en.
So:
- dem ersten Training
- dem kleinen Kind
- der alten Frau
- dem roten Auto
In each case: dative singular + definite article → adjective ends in -en.
Yes, both word orders are correct:
- Nach dem ersten Training hatte ich zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater.
- Ich hatte nach dem ersten Training zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater.
German is a verb-second (V2) language in main clauses:
- The conjugated verb (here: hatte) must be in second position.
- The first position can be different elements: subject, time phrase, place phrase, etc.
In your sentence, the time phrase Nach dem ersten Training is put first for emphasis or style. Then the verb hatte must come second, and ich moves after the verb.
Neutral, “unmarked” word order is often with the subject first:
- Ich hatte nach dem ersten Training zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater.
Starting with Nach dem ersten Training just highlights when it happened.
German has two common past tenses:
Präteritum (simple past)
- ich hatte = I had
Perfekt (present perfect)
- ich habe gehabt = I have had
Usage:
- In spoken German, people usually prefer the Perfekt with most verbs:
- Ich habe zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater gehabt.
- In written German (especially narratives, stories, reports), the Präteritum is very common and sounds more natural:
- Nach dem ersten Training hatte ich zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater.
So in a written example sentence, hatte is stylistically more typical.
In daily speech, many would say: Nach dem ersten Training habe ich zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater gehabt.
Zwei Tage lang literally means for two days (in duration).
- zwei Tage = two days (accusative plural)
- lang here is an adverb that emphasizes the duration of time.
You can think of it as:
- zwei Tage lang ≈ for a duration of two days
Without lang, zwei Tage can be understood, but it sounds less natural in this position:
- Ich hatte zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater. ✔︎ (very natural)
- Ich hatte zwei Tage starken Muskelkater. ✔︎ (possible, but sounds a bit more clipped)
Lang is typical after a time expression to mark duration:
- stundenlang = for hours
- tagelang = for days
- eine Woche lang = for a week
Both are possible, but they’re not used in exactly the same way.
zwei Tage lang (or just zwei Tage in accusative) is the standard way to express actual duration:
- Ich hatte zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater.
= I had muscle soreness for two days (in fact).
- Ich hatte zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater.
für zwei Tage often suggests intended / planned duration, especially with verbs like mieten, buchen, kaufen:
- Ich miete das Auto für zwei Tage.
- Ich kaufe Essen für zwei Tage.
In your sentence, we’re talking about how long the soreness actually lasted, so zwei Tage lang (accusative of duration) is the most natural choice.
Ich hatte für zwei Tage starken Muskelkater is understandable but sounds unusual.
Zwei Tage is in the accusative plural and it’s an example of the accusative of duration.
German often uses the accusative without a preposition to express how long something lasts:
- Ich habe drei Stunden gearbeitet. – I worked for three hours.
- Er blieb eine Woche. – He stayed for a week.
- Wir warteten den ganzen Tag. – We waited (for) the whole day.
In your sentence:
- zwei Tage (lang) = duration (for two days)
- No article is needed because zwei already makes it specific: “two days”, not “the two days”.
This is about case and adjective endings.
The phrase starken Muskelkater is the direct object of hatte, so it must be in the accusative masculine singular:
- Nominative: starker Muskelkater (e.g. Starker Muskelkater ist unangenehm.)
- Accusative: starken Muskelkater (e.g. Ich hatte starken Muskelkater.)
Without an article, adjectives take the strong declension. For masculine:
- Nominative: starker Muskelkater
- Accusative: starken Muskelkater
Since ich hatte (I had) something (object), we need the accusative form → starken Muskelkater.
Yes, both are grammatically correct:
- Ich hatte starken Muskelkater.
- Ich hatte einen starken Muskelkater.
The difference is subtle:
- einen starken Muskelkater sounds a bit more concrete and specific, like “a really bad case of muscle soreness”.
- starken Muskelkater is a bit more generic, like talking about muscle soreness as a state.
In everyday speech, many native speakers might naturally say:
- Ich hatte einen starken Muskelkater.
Your original version without einen is also fully correct and common, especially in written or slightly more formal style.
In German, physical conditions like pain, illnesses, or states of the body are usually expressed with haben (to have), not sein (to be):
- Ich habe Muskelkater. – I have sore muscles.
- Ich habe Kopfschmerzen. – I have a headache.
- Ich habe Fieber. – I have a fever.
- Ich habe Hunger / Durst. – I am hungry / thirsty.
So the natural expression is Muskelkater haben, not Muskelkater sein.
Ich bin Muskelkater would mean “I am muscle soreness”, which doesn’t make sense.
Muskelkater means muscle soreness or stiff / aching muscles after exercise.
- Muskel = muscle
- Kater normally = tomcat (male cat), but in another meaning it also refers to a hangover after drinking alcohol.
Historically, Kater in Muskelkater is not directly about cats; it comes from an older word related to catarrh (a kind of inflammation), and the word changed over time. But for a learner, it’s enough to know:
- Muskelkater = the aches and soreness you feel in your muscles after intense physical activity.
German word order is flexible, especially for time and other adverbials.
These are all grammatically correct, but differ in emphasis:
Nach dem ersten Training hatte ich zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater.
– Focus first on when it was (after the first training).Ich hatte nach dem ersten Training zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater.
– Neutral, subject first.Zwei Tage lang hatte ich nach dem ersten Training starken Muskelkater.
– Strong emphasis on the duration.Zwei Tage lang hatte ich starken Muskelkater nach dem ersten Training.
– Grammatically OK but sounds slightly awkward; nach dem ersten Training fits more naturally earlier in the sentence.
Most natural choices in everyday language are (1) and (2).
Yes, you can say:
- Nach meinem ersten Training hatte ich zwei Tage lang starken Muskelkater.
Difference in nuance:
Nach dem ersten Training
– “After the first training” (could be understood more generally, e.g., the first session in a series, not necessarily your personal first ever).Nach meinem ersten Training
– Emphasizes that this was your first training (e.g., the first time you ever trained, or your first session of that specific kind).
Grammatically:
- mein is a possessive determiner, and with nach (dative), it becomes meinem:
- nach + meinem + ersten Training (dative singular neuter)
- Adjective still gets -en → ersten.