Breakdown of U genitivu kažemo "bez vremena", a u lokativu "o vremenu".
Questions & Answers about U genitivu kažemo "bez vremena", a u lokativu "o vremenu".
What is this sentence explaining?
Why is it bez vremena and not bez vrijeme?
Because bez always takes the genitive case in standard Croatian.
The basic form is:
- vrijeme = nominative singular
After bez, the noun must change to genitive singular:
- vrijeme → vremena
So:
- correct: bez vremena
- not correct: bez vrijeme
Why is it o vremenu and not o vrijeme?
Because o in the sense of about / concerning normally takes the locative case.
So the noun changes from nominative singular:
- vrijeme
to locative singular:
- vremenu
That is why we say:
- o vremenu
What is the dictionary form of vremena and vremenu?
The dictionary form is vrijeme.
That is the nominative singular form, the form you would usually find in a vocabulary list.
From that base form, you get:
Why does vrijeme change to vremen- in other cases?
Because vrijeme belongs to a special group of neuter nouns that have an expanded stem in oblique cases.
So instead of simply adding an ending to vrijeme, Croatian uses the stem vremen-:
- vrijeme
- vremena
- vremenu
- vremenom
This pattern is common with nouns like:
- ime → imena
- rame → ramena
So vrijeme is not fully regular in the way a noun like selo is.
Do -a and -u here mean genitive and locative for all nouns?
Not exactly. Those endings are very common, but the full pattern depends on the noun type.
For vrijeme, the forms are:
Many neuter nouns also have:
- genitive singular in -a
- locative singular in -u
For example:
- selo → sela → selu
So the case endings are familiar, but vrijeme is still special because of the stem change vrijeme → vremen-.
What do u genitivu and u lokativu literally mean?
They literally mean:
- in the genitive
- in the locative
Notice that genitiv and lokativ themselves also change form here:
- genitiv → genitivu
- lokativ → lokativu
That is because they come after u, meaning in, and here u is used with the locative case.
So the grammar terms are being declined too.
Is u always followed by the locative?
No. U can take either the locative or the accusative, depending on meaning.
A simple rule is:
- u + locative = location, being in something
- u + accusative = motion into something
Examples:
- u kući = in the house
- u kuću = into the house
In u genitivu and u lokativu, the idea is in the genitive / in the locative, so Croatian uses the locative.
Why does the sentence use kažemo = we say?
In Croatian, kažemo is often used in explanations to mean something like:
- we say
- the correct form is
- this is how one says it
It does not have to mean a literal group of people speaking together. It is a very natural way to present grammar or usage.
So:
- U genitivu kažemo bez vremena
means roughly - In the genitive, we say bez vremena
Is this an example of the general rule that prepositions control cases?
Yes, exactly.
One of the most important things in Croatian is that prepositions usually require a specific case. In this sentence:
So when you learn a preposition, it is best to learn it together with the case it governs.
For example:
- bez + genitive
- o + locative
- s(a) + instrumental
- do + genitive
That way, forms like bez vremena and o vremenu become much easier to remember.
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