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Na sastanku literally means “at the meeting” (or “in the meeting” in English sense, but Croatian uses na).
- The base noun is sastanak = “meeting”.
- sastanku is locative singular of sastanak.
- The preposition na with the locative often means “at (an event / surface / location)”, so na sastanku = “at the meeting” in the sense of “while the meeting was happening, during the meeting”.
Croatian normally uses:
na
- locative for events and activities:
- na sastanku – at a meeting
- na koncertu – at a concert
- na predavanju – at a lecture
- na poslu – at work
u
- locative for enclosed spaces:
- u sobi – in the room
- u školi – in the school
- u uredu – in the office
A meeting is treated as an event, not as a physical container, so the natural choice is na sastanku, not u sastanku.
smo došli is the past tense (perfect) of doći = “to come”.
Croatian forms the perfect with:
- a present tense of biti (“to be”) as an auxiliary
- plus the l-participle of the main verb
So:
- mi smo došli = “we came / we have come”
- smo = “we are / we have” (auxiliary, 1st person plural of biti)
- došli = past (l‑)participle of doći, masculine plural form
In everyday speech, this perfect tense is the normal past tense in Croatian.
The short verb forms like sam, si, je, smo, ste, su (forms of biti used as auxiliaries) are clitics. They strongly prefer to stand in second position in the clause, after the first stressed word or phrase.
- In Na sastanku smo došli…
- Na sastanku is the first phrase, so smo comes right after it (second position).
- Na sastanku došli smo… sounds wrong, because the clitic smo has been pushed out of that second position.
- If you start with the verb, you can say:
- Došli smo do zaključka… – “We came to the conclusion…”
So the word order is largely dictated by the rule that smo wants to be in second position in the sentence or clause.
doći do zaključka is an idiomatic expression meaning “to come to a conclusion” / “to reach a conclusion”.
Literally:
- doći – to come
- do – to, up to
- zaključka – (of) conclusion
So literally: “to come to (the) conclusion.” This structure doći do + genitive is common for “reaching” something (often abstract):
- doći do dogovora – to reach an agreement
- doći do rješenja – to come to a solution
- doći do problema – to get into trouble / problems
The base form is zaključak = “conclusion” (nominative singular).
After the preposition do, Croatian normally uses the genitive case:
- do + genitive
So:
- nominative: zaključak
- genitive singular: zaključka
That’s why the sentence has do zaključka (“to the conclusion”) instead of do zaključak.
Here da is a conjunction meaning “that”, introducing a subordinate clause which gives the content of the conclusion:
- došli smo do zaključka da…
= “we came to the conclusion that…”
So da je ovaj plan dobar = “that this plan is good.”
(Elsewhere, da can also mean “so that / in order to”, but here it’s just “that”.)
je is the 3rd person singular present of biti (“to be”).
In Croatian, you generally need this linking verb biti between a subject and an adjective:
- ovaj plan je dobar – this plan is good
Inside the da‑clause, the same rule applies:
- da je ovaj plan dobar – “that this plan is good”
The version da ovaj plan dobar (without je) sounds incomplete or wrong in normal prose. You may see such omission only in very telegraphic / headline style, not in standard sentences.
- da je ovaj plan dobar – neutral, most natural.
- da je dobar ovaj plan – also correct; it puts a bit more emphasis on dobar (“good”), like “that good is this plan” → “that this plan is good (as opposed to something else)”.
- da ovaj plan je dobar – sounds odd or non‑standard. The clitic verb je again prefers to be in a “second” position after da, so da je ovaj plan dobar is the normal pattern.
So you can move ovaj plan and dobar a bit for emphasis, but the clitic je will usually stay right after da.
ovaj plan is in the nominative singular masculine:
- ovaj – “this” (masculine nominative singular demonstrative)
- plan – “plan” (masculine nominative singular noun)
In the clause ovaj plan je dobar, ovaj plan is the subject, so it appears in nominative. The adjective dobar agrees with plan in gender, number, and case (masculine singular nominative).
The past participle agrees with the person and gender of the subject.
For mi (“we”):
- mi smo došli – if the group is all male or mixed (standard default form)
- mi smo došle – if the group is all female
Other persons:
- ja sam došao – I came (male speaker)
- ja sam došla – I came (female speaker)
- oni su došli – they came (all male / mixed)
- one su došle – they came (all female)
In your sentence, došli assumes either an all‑male or mixed‑gender group.
Yes, you can say:
- Na sastanku smo zaključili da je ovaj plan dobar.
This also means: “At the meeting we concluded that this plan is good.”
Difference in nuance:
- doći do zaključka – literally “to come to a conclusion”; slightly more idiomatic / descriptive, like reaching that point.
- zaključiti – “to conclude, to decide”; more direct and compact.
In most contexts, they are interchangeable in meaning.
Croatian has no articles (“a/an/the”), so it uses other means:
- ovaj plan literally = “this plan”.
Depending on context, in English you might translate it as:- “this plan” (if contrast is important)
- or naturally as “the plan” (if it’s already clear which plan you’re talking about)
It does not usually mean just “a plan” in a vague, indefinite sense; it points to a specific plan that is already known in the situation.