Breakdown of Cum matri non placeret illa opinio, filia tamen auctoritati magistri confidebat.
Questions & Answers about Cum matri non placeret illa opinio, filia tamen auctoritati magistri confidebat.
Why is cum followed by placeret instead of a normal indicative verb?
Because this cum introduces a subordinate clause with the subjunctive, not the preposition meaning with.
In this sentence, cum matri non placeret illa opinio means something like since / although that opinion did not please the mother. Latin very often uses cum + subjunctive for background circumstances, cause, or concession in past narration.
So:
- cum = when / since / although depending on context
- placeret = imperfect subjunctive, used because of this kind of cum clause
Here, because the main clause has tamen (nevertheless), many learners will understand the clause as especially close to although:
- Although that opinion did not please the mother, the daughter nevertheless trusted the teacher's authority.
What exactly does cum mean here: when, since, or although?
It could be understood in more than one way, but although is especially natural here because of tamen in the main clause.
A useful guide:
- cum + subjunctive can express:
- time/background: when
- cause: since / because
- concession: although
Because the second clause contains tamen (however / nevertheless), Latin is signaling a contrast. That makes a concessive sense very likely:
- Although that opinion did not please the mother, the daughter nevertheless trusted the teacher's authority.
Without tamen, since or when might feel more possible.
Why is matri in the dative case?
Because placeo works differently from English please.
In Latin, placeo takes:
- the thing that is pleasing as the subject
- the person pleased as the dative
So in matri non placeret illa opinio:
- illa opinio = that opinion → subject
- matri = to the mother → dative
- literally: that opinion was not pleasing to the mother
A very literal English gloss would be:
- That opinion did not please the mother or even
- That opinion was not pleasing to the mother
This is a very common Latin pattern.
Why is illa opinio the subject and not matri?
Because the verb placeo is built so that the thing liked or disliked is the grammatical subject.
So:
- illa opinio = nominative singular feminine → subject
- matri = dative singular → the person affected
English often makes the person seem more central:
- The mother did not like that opinion
But Latin expresses it as:
- That opinion was not pleasing to the mother
That is why opinio, not mater, is the subject.
Why is the verb placeret in the imperfect subjunctive?
There are two reasons:
- It is inside a cum clause that regularly takes the subjunctive in this kind of sentence.
- The imperfect shows action going on in past time relative to the main verb.
The main verb is confidebat (was trusting / trusted), also in past time. The imperfect subjunctive in the cum clause gives background information that is simultaneous with the main action:
- while / since / although the opinion was not pleasing to the mother,
- the daughter was trusting the teacher's authority.
So placeret is not random; it fits both the syntax of cum and the past-time setting.
Why is confidebat indicative, but placeret subjunctive?
Because they belong to different kinds of clauses.
- confidebat is the main verb of the main clause, so it is in the indicative
- placeret is in a subordinate cum clause, which here takes the subjunctive
So the contrast is structural:
- Main statement: filia ... confidebat
- Background/concessive clause: cum ... placeret
This is a very common Latin pattern: the main clause states the event directly, while the cum clause gives the surrounding circumstance in the subjunctive.
Why is auctoritati in the dative case?
Because confido commonly takes the dative of the person or thing trusted.
So:
- auctoritati = to the authority
- magistri = of the teacher
Together:
- auctoritati magistri = to the teacher's authority or more naturally in the teacher's authority
A literal rendering of confidere alicui rei is:
- to trust in something or
- to have confidence in something
This is another place where Latin uses the dative in a way that may feel unusual to English speakers.
Why is it auctoritati magistri and not auctoritatem magistri?
Because the verb is confidebat, from confido, and confido does not normally take a direct object in the accusative here. It takes the dative.
So Latin says:
- auctoritati magistri confidebat = she trusted the teacher's authority
Not:
- auctoritatem magistri confidebat
That accusative would not fit the normal construction of confido in this sentence.
A good habit for learners is to memorize some verbs together with the case they govern:
- placeo + dative
- confido + dative
What case is magistri, and what does it mean?
Magistri is genitive singular, meaning of the teacher.
It depends on auctoritati:
- auctoritas = authority
- auctoritati magistri = to the authority of the teacher
In smoother English, that becomes:
- the teacher's authority
So this is a standard possessive genitive.
What is the role of tamen in the sentence?
Tamen means nevertheless, still, or however.
Its job here is to mark a contrast between the two clauses:
- the opinion did not please the mother,
- yet / nevertheless the daughter trusted the teacher's authority.
That is why tamen strongly supports reading cum in a concessive sense:
- Although the opinion did not please the mother, the daughter nevertheless trusted the teacher's authority.
Without tamen, the contrast would be weaker.
Why is the word order so different from English?
Latin word order is much more flexible than English word order because Latin endings show the grammatical roles of words.
In this sentence:
- Cum matri non placeret illa opinio
- filia tamen auctoritati magistri confidebat
The endings tell you what each word is doing:
- matri = dative
- opinio = nominative
- filia = nominative
- auctoritati = dative
- magistri = genitive
Because those endings carry so much information, Latin can place words for emphasis, balance, or style rather than relying mainly on position.
For example:
- matri comes early, which gives prominence to the mother
- illa opinio comes later, even though it is the subject of the subordinate clause
- tamen sits near the start of the main clause to highlight the contrast
Does illa just mean that, or does it add some special emphasis?
At the basic level, illa simply means that and agrees with opinio:
- feminine
- singular
- nominative
So:
- illa opinio = that opinion
Depending on context, ille, illa, illud can sometimes feel slightly emphatic, like that particular or that well-known. But in a sentence like this, the safest reading is just that opinion.
Could filia have been left out?
Yes, in principle. Latin often omits subject pronouns, and sometimes even a noun subject can be omitted if the context makes it clear.
But here filia is useful because it clearly names who was doing the trusting:
- the daughter
If the sentence only had confidebat, the verb ending would tell us he/she/it was trusting, but not which person specifically. So filia is included for clarity and probably also for contrast with matri.
What is a very literal way to understand the whole sentence?
A very literal breakdown is:
- Cum = although / since / when
- matri = to the mother
- non placeret = was not pleasing
- illa opinio = that opinion
- filia tamen = the daughter nevertheless
- auctoritati magistri = to the authority of the teacher
- confidebat = was trusting / trusted
So a very literal version would be:
- Although that opinion was not pleasing to the mother, the daughter nevertheless trusted the teacher's authority.
That literal phrasing helps show the Latin grammar, especially:
- placeo + dative
- confido + dative
- magistri as a genitive
- cum + subjunctive for the subordinate clause
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