Breakdown of A törött pohár már ki van dobva, ezért nincs az asztalon.
Questions & Answers about A törött pohár már ki van dobva, ezért nincs az asztalon.
Why do we have a in A törött pohár but az in az asztalon?
They are the same definite article: a / az = the.
The choice depends on the following sound:
- a before a consonant: a törött pohár
- az before a vowel: az asztalon
So it is not a different word or a different case—just the same article in two forms.
What does törött mean here, and why is it before pohár?
Törött means broken.
In Hungarian, adjectives normally come before the noun, just like in English:
- törött pohár = broken glass / broken cup
So A törött pohár is simply the broken glass.
Also, törött is an adjective form derived from the verb törni (to break).
Is kidobni one verb? If so, why is it written as ki van dobva instead of together?
Yes. The dictionary form is kidobni, meaning to throw out / throw away.
It contains:
- ki = out
- dobni = to throw
In many Hungarian sentence types, the verbal prefix separates from the verb. That is what happens here:
- dictionary form: kidobni
- in this sentence: ki van dobva
So ki is still part of the verb meaning, but the grammar of the sentence causes it to appear separately.
What exactly does ki van dobva mean grammatically?
It is a very common Hungarian structure: prefix + van + -va/-ve form.
Here:
- ki = out
- van = is
- dobva = thrown
Together, ki van dobva means something like:
- is thrown out
- has been thrown out
- is already in a thrown-out state
This structure often expresses a resulting state rather than focusing on the action itself.
So the sentence is not mainly about the act of throwing it out, but about the fact that the glass is now already gone / discarded.
What is dobva? Is it a normal verb form?
Dobva is the -va/-ve form of the verb dobni (to throw).
This form often appears in constructions with van:
- meg van írva = it is written
- ki van dobva = it is thrown out / has been thrown out
It is not the same as a regular English tense. Instead, it helps express that something has reached a certain state.
So dobva by itself is not the whole predicate here; the full predicate is ki van dobva.
Why is van used in the first clause?
Because ki van dobva is a complete predicate built with van.
Hungarian often uses van with the -va/-ve form to express a result state:
- be van zárva = it is closed
- el van törve = it is broken
- ki van dobva = it is thrown out
So van is necessary here. You cannot just say A törött pohár már ki dobva.
What does már add to the sentence?
Már usually means already.
Here it shows that the action/result has happened by now:
- A törött pohár ki van dobva = The broken glass is thrown out.
- A törött pohár már ki van dobva = The broken glass is already thrown out.
It often gives a sense of change of state or completed situation.
What does ezért mean, and how does it connect the two clauses?
Ezért means therefore, for that reason, or that’s why.
It links the first clause to the second:
- A törött pohár már ki van dobva = The broken glass has already been thrown out
- ezért nincs az asztalon = therefore it is not on the table
So the logic is:
- it has been thrown out
- therefore it is not on the table
Why is there a comma before ezért?
Because the sentence contains two clauses:
- A törött pohár már ki van dobva
- ezért nincs az asztalon
The comma helps mark the boundary between them and shows the cause-result relationship.
This is very natural punctuation in Hungarian when two related clauses are joined like this.
Why is it nincs, not nem van?
Because van has a special negative form in this kind of use.
For existence or location, Hungarian uses:
- van = is
- nincs = is not
So:
- az asztalon van = it is on the table
- az asztalon nincs / nincs az asztalon = it is not on the table
You do not normally say nem van here.
What does az asztalon mean grammatically?
Asztal means table.
The ending -on means on (on the surface of something). So:
- asztal = table
- asztalon = on the table
And with the article:
- az asztalon = on the table
This ending is called a case ending. Hungarian often uses case endings where English uses prepositions.
Why is there no word for it in ezért nincs az asztalon?
Because Hungarian often leaves out the subject when it is clear from context.
In English, you need:
- therefore it is not on the table
In Hungarian, the subject is understood from the previous clause:
- A törött pohár ... ezért nincs az asztalon
The omitted subject is basically it / the broken glass.
This kind of omission is very common in Hungarian.
Could the word order be different?
Yes. Hungarian word order is flexible, and changes in order often change emphasis rather than the basic meaning.
For example, this sentence is fairly neutral:
- A törött pohár már ki van dobva, ezért nincs az asztalon.
A different order could highlight something else, for example:
- Már ki van dobva a törött pohár...
This puts more attention on the state already thrown out.
But the original version is very natural if you first want to identify the topic as the broken glass and then say something about it.
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