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German has two common ways to form the passive in the past:
Vorgangspassiv (event passive), Perfekt:
- Unsere Zugtickets sind schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht worden.
- Auxiliary sein (in the present) + past participle (gebucht) + worden
Vorgangspassiv, Präteritum (simple past):
- Unsere Zugtickets wurden schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht.
- Simple past of werden (wurden) + past participle (gebucht)
Both sentences are grammatically correct and mean the same thing in most contexts: Our train tickets were already booked online two weeks ago.
Style difference:
- Perfekt (sind … gebucht worden) is more typical in spoken German (especially in southern regions).
- Präteritum (wurden … gebucht) is common in written German and in the north.
So the sentence uses sind … gebucht worden simply as the Perfekt passive form.
German has two different forms related to werden:
worden
- Used in the Vorgangspassiv in compound tenses (Perfekt, Plusquamperfekt, Futur II):
- Die Tickets sind gebucht worden. – The tickets have been booked.
- It does not mean "become" here. It’s just the special passive auxiliary form.
- Used in the Vorgangspassiv in compound tenses (Perfekt, Plusquamperfekt, Futur II):
geworden
- Past participle of werden in its meaning to become:
- Er ist müde geworden. – He has become tired.
- Past participle of werden in its meaning to become:
Rule of thumb:
- Passive + past = worden
- “Become” + past = geworden
In the event passive (Vorgangspassiv), German always uses werden as the main passive auxiliary, and in compound tenses its auxiliary is sein:
Present passive:
Die Tickets werden online gebucht.Perfect passive:
Die Tickets sind online gebucht worden.
Structure in the perfect passive:
- Auxiliary of werden in Perfekt → sein
- Past participle of the main verb → gebucht
- Special passive form → worden
So:
- sind (Perfekt of sein, 3rd person plural)
- gebucht (past participle)
- worden (passive marker)
You never use haben for the Vorgangspassiv.
They are two different types of passive:
sind gebucht worden – Vorgangspassiv (event passive)
- Focus: the action of booking took place.
- Unsere Zugtickets sind schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht worden.
→ The act of booking happened two weeks ago.
sind gebucht – Zustandspassiv (state passive)
- Focus: the resulting state after the action.
- Unsere Zugtickets sind (schon) gebucht.
→ Our tickets are (already) booked. (They are in the “booked” state now.)
So:
- Use sind gebucht worden when you care about when / how the booking happened.
- Use sind gebucht when you care about the current state (they’re booked, not free).
Zugtickets is:
- plural
- neuter in singular (das Zugticket, plural die Zugtickets)
In the sentence:
- Unsere Zugtickets is the subject of the passive verb (sind gebucht worden).
- The subject is in the nominative case.
- For unser- in the nominative plural, the ending is -e: unsere.
Case pattern for unser- (relevant parts):
- Nominative plural: unsere Tickets
- Accusative plural: unsere Tickets (same form)
- Dative plural: unseren Tickets
So unsere Zugtickets is nominative plural and correct as the subject.
In active voice, the logical structure would be:
- Jemand hat unsere Zugtickets schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht.
- jemand = subject (nominative)
- unsere Zugtickets = direct object (accusative)
In passive, German (like English) makes the object of the active sentence into the subject:
- Unsere Zugtickets sind schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht worden.
- unsere Zugtickets now functions as subject (nominative).
English does the same:
- Active: Someone booked our tickets two weeks ago.
- Passive: Our tickets were booked two weeks ago.
So the German structure matches English: the former object becomes the new subject in the passive.
- Infinitive: buchen (to book, to reserve)
- gebucht is the Partizip II (past participle).
For regular (weak) verbs like buchen, the participle pattern is:
- ge-
- verb stem + -t
So:
- buch- (stem) → ge-buch-t = gebucht
This participle is used:
- in the active perfect:
Wir haben die Tickets online gebucht. - in the passive:
Die Tickets sind online gebucht worden.
Meaning:
- schon here means already.
- It indicates that the action happened earlier than someone might expect.
Nuance:
- Without schon: Unsere Zugtickets sind vor zwei Wochen online gebucht worden.
→ Neutral: just states the time. - With schon: Unsere Zugtickets sind schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht worden.
→ Suggests: “(Surprisingly / as you can see) it was already two weeks ago.”
Position:
- The given position is very natural:
- … sind schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht worden.
Other positions are possible but less neutral:
- Unsere Zugtickets sind vor zwei Wochen schon online gebucht worden. (slightly different emphasis)
- Unsere Zugtickets sind online schon vor zwei Wochen gebucht worden. (stronger focus on online already)
Standard, most natural version is exactly as in the sentence: schon vor zwei Wochen online.
Both vor and seit talk about time, but they are used differently:
vor
- time expression = a point in the past, completed
- vor zwei Wochen = two weeks ago
- Used with events that are finished:
Unsere Zugtickets sind vor zwei Wochen gebucht worden.
seit
- time expression = since / for and the situation continues until now
- seit zwei Wochen = for two weeks / since two weeks ago
- Used with ongoing states or actions:
- Wir haben die Tickets seit zwei Wochen. – We’ve had the tickets for two weeks.
- Seit zwei Wochen warten wir. – We have been waiting for two weeks.
The booking event happened at a specific point in the past, so vor zwei Wochen is correct.
online in German is:
- an adverb (also used like an invariable adjective in some contexts)
- it does not change its form (no gender, number, case endings).
In this sentence, it modifies gebucht (how/where the tickets were booked).
Typical adverb order rule (simplified TMP):
- Time – Manner – Place (though online is a kind of "manner/location in the internet").
Possible positions:
- Unsere Zugtickets sind schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht worden. (very natural)
- Unsere Zugtickets sind schon vor zwei Wochen gebucht worden, online. (possible, but sounds a bit tacked-on)
- Unsere Zugtickets sind online schon vor zwei Wochen gebucht worden. (emphasis on “online”)
The original position (just before gebucht) is the most neutral and idiomatic.
A natural active version would be:
- Jemand hat unsere Zugtickets schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht.
or, more generally:
- Man hat unsere Zugtickets schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht.
Structure:
- Jemand / Man = subject (doer of the action)
- hat gebucht = active perfect
- unsere Zugtickets = direct object
- schon vor zwei Wochen online = adverbials
The passive version hides the agent:
- Unsere Zugtickets sind schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht worden.
→ We focus on the fact that the tickets are booked, not on who did it.
Yes, you can, and it is perfectly correct:
- Unsere Zugtickets wurden schon vor zwei Wochen online gebucht.
Difference:
- wurden gebucht = Präteritum passive
- sind gebucht worden = Perfekt passive
In meaning, they are practically the same here.
Usage tendencies:
- wurden gebucht is very common in written German (reports, news, formal texts).
- sind gebucht worden is more common in spoken German, especially in southern regions.
So it’s mostly a stylistic/region preference, not a meaning difference in this context.