Breakdown of الطلبية دي عليها خصم النهارده لو طلبناها من على الموقع.
Questions & Answers about الطلبية دي عليها خصم النهارده لو طلبناها من على الموقع.
What does الطلبية mean here, and why is it feminine?
الطلبية means the order in Egyptian Arabic, especially an order for food, products, delivery, etc.
It is treated as feminine, which is why later the sentence uses feminine words like دي and the pronoun -ها.
A few related words:
- طلب = a request / an order
- طلبية = an order (very common in everyday Egyptian speech)
So:
- الطلبية دي = this order
Why does the sentence use دي? Does it just mean this?
Yes. دي means this for a feminine noun in Egyptian Arabic.
Because الطلبية is feminine, you say:
- الطلبية دي = this order
Compare:
- الولد ده = this boy
- البنت دي = this girl
A very important point for English speakers: in Egyptian Arabic, the demonstrative usually comes after the noun:
- الطلبية دي literally: the order this
That is the normal pattern in speech.
Why are both الطلبية and دي definite? Why not just one of them?
In Egyptian Arabic, when you say this/that with a noun, the noun is usually definite too.
So you normally get:
- الطلبية دي = this order
- الكتاب ده = this book
- العربية دي = this car
This is different from English, where you do not say the this order. In Egyptian Arabic, that double definiteness is normal.
What does عليها خصم literally mean?
Literally, عليها خصم means something like:
- on it there is a discount
- or it has a discount on it
In natural English, that becomes:
- it’s discounted
- there’s a discount on it
- it’s on sale
Breakdown:
- على = on
- -ها = on it / on her (here: it, referring to الطلبية)
- خصم = discount
So عليها خصم is a very common Arabic way to say that something has a discount applied to it.
Why is it عليها and not something like لها or فيها?
This is just the natural Arabic expression used with خصم.
Egyptian Arabic commonly says:
- على المنتج خصم
- عليه خصم
- عليها خصم
This means there is a discount on it.
Other prepositions would sound different:
- لها خصم is not the usual way to express this idea
- فيها خصم would sound unnatural here
So this is a pattern worth memorizing:
- عليه خصم = it has a discount / there’s a discount on it
What is النهارده, and is it specifically Egyptian?
Yes. النهارده is the Egyptian Arabic word for today.
In Modern Standard Arabic, you would usually say:
- اليوم
In Egyptian speech:
- النهارده = today
It is extremely common and one of the first time words learners usually meet.
Why does the sentence use لو? Does it mean if?
Yes, لو means if.
Here:
- لو طلبناها من على الموقع = if we order it from the website
In Egyptian Arabic, لو is the normal everyday word for if in many situations.
Why is the verb after لو in the past form: طلبناها? The meaning is future, isn’t it?
Yes, the meaning is future in English: if we order it.
But in Arabic, especially in colloquial speech, after لو you will often see a past-tense form even when the meaning is present or future.
So:
- لو طلبناها literally looks like if we ordered it
- but in context it means if we order it
This is very common and normal.
So don’t translate the tense word-for-word. Focus on the whole structure:
- لو + past form often works like if + present/future meaning in English.
What does طلبناها break down into?
طلبناها has three parts:
- طلب = order / request
- نا = we
- ها = it (feminine)
So:
- طلبناها = we ordered it / we order it depending on context
In this sentence, because it comes after لو, it means:
- if we order it
The ها refers back to الطلبية, which is feminine.
Why is the pronoun -ها used twice, in عليها and طلبناها?
Because both of them refer back to الطلبية.
- عليها خصم = there is a discount on it
- طلبناها = we order it
Since الطلبية is feminine, the attached pronoun is -ها.
This is a very common feature of Arabic: once the noun is introduced, later parts of the sentence often refer back to it with attached pronouns.
What does من على الموقع mean exactly? Why are there two prepositions?
من على الموقع literally means:
- from on the website
But naturally in English, it means:
- from the website
- off the website
- through the website
In Egyptian Arabic, combinations like من على are common in everyday speech. They can express the idea of getting something from off of a surface/platform/place.
So:
- طلبناها من على الموقع = we order it from the website
You may also hear other similar expressions in speech, and learners should not be surprised by stacked prepositions in colloquial Arabic.
Is الموقع specifically a website here?
Yes, in this context الموقع means the website.
By itself, موقع can mean:
- location
- site
- website
The context tells you which meaning is intended. Because the sentence is about ordering something online and getting a discount, الموقع clearly means the website.
What is the basic word order of this sentence?
The sentence is:
الطلبية دي عليها خصم النهارده لو طلبناها من على الموقع.
A natural breakdown is:
- الطلبية دي = this order
- عليها خصم = has a discount / there’s a discount on it
- النهارده = today
- لو طلبناها من على الموقع = if we order it from the website
So the overall structure is roughly:
[topic] + [comment about it] + [time] + [condition]
This is very normal in spoken Arabic. It does not have to match English word order exactly to sound natural.
Could this sentence be said in a slightly different but still natural Egyptian way?
Yes, definitely. Spoken Egyptian has many natural variants. For example:
- الطلبية دي عليها خصم النهارده لو طلبناها من الموقع.
- في خصم على الطلبية دي النهارده لو طلبناها من على الموقع.
- الطلبية دي عليها تخفيض النهارده لو هنطلبها من على الموقع.
Notes:
- خصم and تخفيض can both relate to discounts, though خصم is very common in everyday use.
- من على الموقع and من الموقع can both occur, depending on the speaker and style.
- لو طلبناها and لو هنطلبها can both express the conditional idea in colloquial speech.
How would this differ from Modern Standard Arabic?
A more MSA-like version might be:
- هذا الطلب عليه خصم اليوم إذا طلبناه من الموقع.
Main differences:
- Egyptian الطلبية دي vs. MSA هذا الطلب
- Egyptian النهارده vs. MSA اليوم
- Egyptian لو vs. MSA إذا in more formal style
- Egyptian sentence rhythm and vocabulary sound more conversational
So the original sentence is clearly everyday Egyptian Arabic, not formal written Arabic.
How is this sentence likely pronounced in Egyptian Arabic?
A rough learner-friendly pronunciation might be:
et-talabeyya di ʿaleeha khasm en-naharda law talabnaaha men ʿala el-mawqeʿ
A few notes:
- الطلبية often sounds like et-talabeyya
- دي = di
- عليها = ʿaleeha
- خصم = khasm
- النهارده = en-naharda
- لو = law
- طلبناها = talabnaaha
- الموقع = el-mawqeʿ
Pronunciation varies a bit by speaker, but this gives a good approximate spoken form.
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