Breakdown of Selfs al oefen ons op dansvloere, bly liggaamshouding voor spieëlmure belangrik.
Questions & Answers about Selfs al oefen ons op dansvloere, bly liggaamshouding voor spieëlmure belangrik.
What does selfs al mean in this sentence?
Why is the verb oefen placed before ons in Selfs al oefen ons?
Because selfs al introduces a subordinate clause, and in Afrikaans, subordinate clauses usually put the finite verb before the subject less often? Actually, with conjunctions like as, omdat, terwyl, alhoewel, and selfs al, Afrikaans often uses the verb near the end or keeps a different pattern depending on the structure. In this sentence, selfs al oefen ons is a common, natural pattern meaning even if we practise.
For a learner, the easiest takeaway is:
- selfs al oefen ons = even if we practise
- ons oefen = we practise
So the clause after selfs al may not follow the plain main-clause order you first learn.
What does bly mean here?
Bly usually means remain or stay.
So:
- bly ... belangrik = remains important / stays important
In this sentence:
- bly liggaamshouding voor spieëlmure belangrik
- posture in front of mirror walls remains important
This is a very common Afrikaans pattern:
- Dit bly moeilik. = It remains difficult.
- Dit bly waar. = That remains true.
Why does the main clause begin with bly after the comma?
Afrikaans is a V2 language in main clauses, which means the finite verb normally comes in the second position.
The first position here is taken by the whole opening clause:
- Selfs al oefen ons op dansvloere
So in the main clause, the verb comes next:
That gives:
- Selfs al oefen ons op dansvloere, bly liggaamshouding voor spieëlmure belangrik.
A rough structural view:
- fronted clause: Selfs al oefen ons op dansvloere
- finite verb of the main clause: bly
- subject: liggaamshouding
- rest: voor spieëlmure belangrik
This is very typical Afrikaans word order.
What does liggaamshouding mean, and why is it written as one word?
Liggaamshouding means body posture or simply posture.
It is a compound noun:
- liggaam = body
- houding = posture / bearing / stance
Afrikaans very often writes compound nouns as one word, much more consistently than English does.
Examples:
- dansvloer = dance floor
- spieëlmuur = mirror wall
- liggaamshouding = body posture
So if an English speaker expects liggaam houding, that would be unnatural in normal Afrikaans.
Why do we get dansvloere and spieëlmure with -e at the end?
Those are plural forms.
- dansvloer → dansvloere = dance floor → dance floors
- spieëlmuur → spieëlmure = mirror wall → mirror walls
Afrikaans has a few common plural endings, especially -e and -s. Which one a noun takes depends on the word.
So here:
- op dansvloere = on dance floors
- voor spieëlmure = in front of mirror walls
Why is there no article like die before dansvloere, spieëlmure, or liggaamshouding?
Afrikaans often leaves out the article when speaking about something in a general sense.
So:
- op dansvloere = on dance floors in general
- voor spieëlmure = in front of mirror walls in general
- liggaamshouding ... belangrik = posture is important
If you added die, it would sound more specific:
- op die dansvloere = on the dance floors / on those dance floors
- voor die spieëlmure = in front of the mirror walls
- die liggaamshouding = the posture
The article is omitted here because the sentence is making a general statement.
What is the difference between op and voor in this sentence?
They are two different prepositions:
- op dansvloere = on dance floors
- voor spieëlmure = in front of mirror walls
So:
- op tells you the surface/location where the practice happens
- voor tells you the position relative to the mirrors
These are very literal and natural uses of the prepositions.
Why is belangrik at the end?
Because it is part of the predicate after bly.
In Afrikaans, with verbs like wees and bly, an adjective often comes later in the clause:
- Dit is belangrik. = It is important.
- Dit bly belangrik. = It remains important.
So here:
- liggaamshouding ... bly belangrik
- posture ... remains important
Putting belangrik at the end is completely normal.
Is oefen only for physical practice, or can it mean other kinds of practice too?
Oefen is a broad verb meaning practise or exercise/train.
It can be used for:
- physical training
- dance practice
- music practice
- language practice
- rehearsing a skill
Examples:
- Ek oefen Afrikaans. = I practise Afrikaans.
- Ons oefen vir die kompetisie. = We practise for the competition.
- Sy oefen klavier. = She practises piano.
So in this sentence, oefen is a natural word for practising dance.
Could Selfs al be replaced by another expression?
Yes, depending on the nuance.
Some possible alternatives are:
- alhoewel = although
- al = even if / although in some contexts
- ten spyte daarvan dat = despite the fact that
But selfs al is especially good when you want the sense of:
- even if that is true
- even granting that
So the original sentence has a strong contrast:
- Even if we practise on dance floors, posture in front of mirror walls remains important.
That contrast is exactly what selfs al does well.
What is the basic sentence structure if I strip it down to the core?
The core main clause is:
- Liggaamshouding bly belangrik.
- Posture remains important.
Then the sentence adds two extra pieces:
- a contrasting clause at the front:
- Selfs al oefen ons op dansvloere
- a place phrase modifying liggaamshouding:
- voor spieëlmure
So the full sentence is built like this:
- Selfs al oefen ons op dansvloere,
- bly
- liggaamshouding
- voor spieëlmure
- belangrik.
That can help you see that the grammar is not as complicated as it first looks.
Would voor die spieël be more common than voor spieëlmure?
In everyday speech, voor die spieël (in front of the mirror) may sound more common because it is simpler and more general.
But voor spieëlmure is perfectly natural if the context is a dance studio or training space with mirror walls. It is more specific and paints a clearer picture.
So:
- voor die spieël = in front of the mirror
- voor spieëlmure = in front of mirror walls
The sentence chooses the more specialised studio-related image.
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