Questions & Answers about Bunlar çok eski kitaplar.
What does bunlar mean, and why isn’t it bular?
Bunlar means these.
It is the plural form of bu (this), but the form is not made by simply adding -lar to get bular. Turkish uses bunlar, with an extra n.
A few useful demonstratives are:
- bu = this
- bunlar = these
- şu = that / this near there
- şunlar = those
- o = that
- onlar = those / they
So bunlar is just the correct standard form to learn as a whole.
What is the basic structure of this sentence?
The sentence breaks down like this:
- Bunlar = these
- çok = very
- eski = old
- kitaplar = books
So structurally, it is:
- bunlar = the thing being talked about
- çok eski kitaplar = what they are being identified as
In grammar terms, this is a nominal sentence: there is no main action verb like read or go. Instead, one noun phrase is equated with another idea, like These are very old books.
Where is the word are?
In Turkish, the present-tense form of to be is often not expressed in simple sentences like this.
So:
- Bunlar çok eski kitaplar.
- literally: These very old books.
- natural English: These are very old books.
The idea of are is understood.
This is very common in Turkish. For example:
- Bu bir masa. = This is a table.
- O çok yorgun. = He/She is very tired.
In other tenses, Turkish does show the copula more clearly:
- Bunlar çok eski kitaplardı. = These were very old books.
Why is kitaplar plural if bunlar already means these?
Because Turkish still normally marks the noun itself as plural when it refers to more than one item.
So:
- bunlar = these
- kitaplar = books
Together, they clearly refer to multiple books.
This is different from some situations in Turkish where the plural is not used, especially after numbers:
- üç kitap = three books
- not üç kitaplar
But in your sentence, kitaplar is the natural form because the predicate is talking about several actual books.
Does çok mean very or many here?
Here, çok means very.
That is because it comes before the adjective eski:
- çok eski = very old
So:
- çok eski kitaplar = very old books
Çok can also mean many / a lot of, depending on what it modifies:
- çok kitap = many books
- çok eski kitap = a very old book
- çok eski kitaplar = very old books
So context and position matter.
Why are çok and eski before the noun?
Because Turkish adjectives normally come before the noun, just like in English.
Examples:
- eski kitap = old book
- büyük ev = big house
- güzel araba = beautiful car
Here:
- eski describes kitaplar
- çok strengthens eski
So the order is:
- çok eski kitaplar = very old books
This is the normal word order for adjective phrases in Turkish.
Do adjectives change form in Turkish for plural nouns?
No. Turkish adjectives do not agree with the noun in number or gender.
So eski stays eski whether the noun is singular or plural:
- eski kitap = old book
- eski kitaplar = old books
This is simpler than in many European languages. You do not need different adjective endings here.
Why is the sentence Bunlar çok eski kitaplar and not Çok eski kitaplar bunlar?
Bunlar çok eski kitaplar is the more neutral, straightforward order.
Turkish word order is flexible, but changing the order usually changes the focus or emphasis.
- Bunlar çok eski kitaplar. = neutral: These are very old books.
- Çok eski kitaplar bunlar. = more marked/emphatic: These are very old books, with extra focus on very old books
So the version you have is a good basic pattern to learn first.
Could I also say Bu kitaplar çok eski?
Yes, and that is also very natural Turkish.
Compare:
- Bunlar çok eski kitaplar. = These are very old books.
- Bu kitaplar çok eski. = These books are very old.
The meaning is very close, but the structure is different.
In Bunlar çok eski kitaplar, the predicate is a noun phrase:
- very old books
In Bu kitaplar çok eski, the predicate is an adjective:
- very old
Both are correct, but they are built differently.
Why is there no word for the or a/an?
Turkish does not have a word exactly like English the.
It can use bir to mean a/an, but not in the same way as English articles, and not with plural nouns in this kind of sentence.
In your sentence, no article is needed because bunlar already makes the reference definite and clear:
- bunlar = these
So the sentence naturally does not need anything like the.
Why is the plural ending -lar and not -ler?
Because of vowel harmony, a major pattern in Turkish.
The plural suffix has two forms:
- -lar
- -ler
Which one you use depends on the vowel in the word.
A simple rule:
- after a, ı, o, u → use -lar
- after e, i, ö, ü → use -ler
So:
- kitap → kitaplar
- ev → evler
Since kitap contains a, it takes -lar.
Is this sentence formal, informal, or neutral?
It is neutral and completely normal.
You can use it in everyday speech and writing. It sounds like a standard descriptive sentence.
If you wanted, Turkish can sometimes add extra emphasis or a more formal tone with -dir, but it is not necessary here:
- Bunlar çok eski kitaplardır.
That version is more formal or explanatory. For normal conversation, Bunlar çok eski kitaplar is the usual choice.
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