Breakdown of Kami boleh berunding tentang harga minta itu.
Questions & Answers about Kami boleh berunding tentang harga minta itu.
What does kami mean, and why isn’t it kita?
Kami means we, but it is the exclusive form: it does not include the person being spoken to.
Malay has two common words for we:
- kami = we, but not you
- kita = we, including you
So in this sentence, kami tells you the speaker means our side / our group can negotiate, but the listener is not part of that we.
What does boleh mean here?
Boleh usually means can, may, be able to, or sometimes be allowed to.
In this sentence, it most naturally means something like:
- can
- are able to
- it is possible to
So kami boleh berunding... means that negotiation is possible or acceptable.
In everyday Malay, boleh is very common and very flexible.
Why is the verb berunding instead of just unding?
The basic root is unding, which is connected with discussion or negotiation. In normal usage, you usually see it with a prefix.
Here, ber- makes berunding, which means to negotiate, to discuss together, or to confer.
So:
- berunding = engage in negotiation/discussion
You normally would not use bare unding by itself in ordinary modern sentences.
What does the prefix ber- do in berunding?
The prefix ber- often forms verbs that mean to do an action, to be engaged in something, or to have/use something, depending on the word.
In berunding, it gives the sense of engaging in negotiation/discussion.
Compare:
- berunding = to negotiate / confer
- merundingkan = to negotiate something specifically
So:
- Kami boleh berunding tentang harga itu = We can negotiate about that price
- Kami boleh merundingkan harga itu = We can negotiate that price
Both are possible, but they are structured a little differently.
What does tentang mean in this sentence?
Tentang is a preposition meaning about, regarding, or concerning.
So berunding tentang harga minta itu means negotiating about/regarding that asking price.
It links the verb berunding to the topic being discussed.
What does harga minta mean? Is it literally price ask?
Yes, literally it looks something like ask price or requested price, but as a fixed expression it means asking price.
So:
- harga = price
- minta = ask / request
- harga minta = asking price
This is especially understandable in sales, bargaining, or property contexts.
To an English speaker, it may feel strange because English uses asking price, while Malay puts the words together in its own way.
Why is there no yang in harga minta? Would harga yang diminta also work?
Yes, harga yang diminta also works, and in many cases it may sound clearer to learners.
Malay often allows shorter, compact expressions without yang, especially in established phrases.
So you may see:
- harga minta = a compact phrase meaning asking price
- harga yang diminta = literally the price that is being asked/requested
Both can refer to the asking price, but harga minta feels more like a set term, while harga yang diminta is more transparent grammatically.
Why does itu come at the end of the phrase instead of before the noun?
In Malay, demonstratives like ini and itu normally come after the noun, not before it.
So:
- rumah itu = that house
- harga itu = that price
- harga minta itu = that asking price
This is very normal Malay word order.
English says that price, but Malay says price that.
What is the basic sentence structure here, and why is there no word like English to after boleh?
The structure is:
- Kami = subject
- boleh = modal
- berunding = main verb
- tentang harga minta itu = prepositional phrase
So the pattern is basically:
Subject + modal + verb + prepositional phrase
Malay does not need an English-style to after modal words like can.
So:
- can negotiate
- boleh berunding
not something like boleh untuk berunding in normal straightforward usage.
Does this sentence show present time or future time?
Not specifically. Malay verbs do not change form for tense the way English verbs do.
So Kami boleh berunding tentang harga minta itu could mean:
- We can negotiate about that asking price now
- We can negotiate about that asking price later
The time usually comes from context, or from extra words such as:
- sekarang = now
- nanti = later
- esok = tomorrow
Malay often leaves tense unstated unless it matters.
Is this sentence natural Malay, or would native speakers say it differently?
It is understandable, and harga minta is a real expression. Still, some speakers might prefer slightly different wording depending on context.
Common alternatives include:
- Kami boleh berunding tentang harga yang diminta itu.
- Kami boleh berunding tentang harga itu.
- Harga itu masih boleh dirunding.
These alternatives may sound a bit smoother or more natural in some situations, especially if you want to make the phrase asking price more explicit.
So the original sentence is workable, but it is not the only natural way to say it.
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