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Breakdown of Me emme myöskään ehdi kokoukseen.
me
we
ei
not
ehtiä
to make it
kokous
the meeting
-seen
to
myöskään
either
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Questions & Answers about Me emme myöskään ehdi kokoukseen.
Why do we have both me and emme? Isn’t that redundant?
Finnish verbs (and the negative auxiliary) already mark the person and number, so the subject pronoun is optional. Emme already means “we don’t.” Adding me adds emphasis or contrast, like “We (for our part) don’t…”
Can I drop me?
Yes. Emme myöskään ehdi kokoukseen is the neutral, most common version. Me emme… highlights the subject, often contrasting with someone else.
Do I need myöskään here?
Only if you want the meaning “also/either.” Without it, Emme ehdi kokoukseen simply says “we won’t make it,” with no “also/either” nuance.
Why myöskään and not myös?
Myöskään is the negative counterpart of myös. Use:
- myös in affirmative clauses (also).
- myöskään in negative clauses (not … either/also not).
You can also express “either” with the clitic -kaan/-kään:
- Subject focus: Emme mekään ehdi kokoukseen.
- Destination focus: Emme ehdi kokoukseenkaan.
Where does myöskään go in the sentence?
Word order is flexible. Common options:
- Emme myöskään ehdi kokoukseen (default).
- Me emme myöskään ehdi kokoukseen (subject emphasized).
- Me emme ehdi myöskään kokoukseen (focus on the destination).
- Myöskään me emme ehdi kokoukseen (fronted for strong contrast). All are grammatical; word order changes what’s emphasized.
Why is the verb ehdi, not ehdimme?
Finnish negation uses the negative auxiliary plus the verb’s “connegative” form. So:
- Affirmative: me ehdimme (we make it).
- Negative: emme ehdi (we don’t make it). Mini-paradigm:
- Aff: minä ehdin, sinä ehdit, hän ehtii, me ehdimme, te ehditte, he ehtivät
- Neg: en ehdi, et ehdi, ei ehdi, emme ehdi, ette ehdi, eivät ehdi
How would I say this in the past?
Me emme myöskään ehtineet kokoukseen. In the past negative, use the negative auxiliary plus the NUT-participle: emme ehtineet (we didn’t make it).
What exactly does ehtiä mean here?
Ehtiä means “to make it (in time), manage to get/arrive in time.” It’s about timing/schedule. If you mean “have time,” use olla aikaa:
- En ehdi kokoukseen = I won’t make it to the meeting (on time).
- Minulla ei ole aikaa osallistua kokoukseen = I don’t have time to participate in the meeting.
Why is it kokoukseen? What case is that?
Kokoukseen is the illative case (“into/to”), used for movement/arrival to a place or event. With ehtiä + event, the illative is standard. Compare:
- kokouksessa = in/at the meeting
- kokouksesta = from the meeting
- kokoukseen = to/into the meeting
How is kokoukseen formed from kokous?
Stem formation: kokous → stem kokoukse-. The illative adds -en to e-stems, and the two e’s merge into long ee: kokoukse- + -en → kokoukseen. Other forms: kokouksen (genitive), kokouksessa (inessive).
Could I say kokoukselle instead?
Generally no for physical arrival/attendance. Kokoukselle (allative, “onto/to”) is used for giving or addressing something to the meeting as an institution/body (e.g., submitting a proposal to the meeting), not for “making it to the meeting.” For arrival, use kokoukseen.
When should I use emmekä instead of emme myöskään?
Use -kä/-kä to link to a previous clause meaning “and not”:
- He eivät ehdi kokoukseen, emmekä me. You wouldn’t normally start a new sentence with Emmekä unless it clearly continues the previous one. Me emme myöskään… works both sentence-initially and mid-sentence.
Any quick pronunciation tips?
- myöskään: y and ä are front vowels; ää is long; stress the first syllable: MYÖS-.
- ehdi: pronounce the hd cluster clearly; both consonants are heard.
- kokoukseen: the ou is a true diphthong; ks is like “ks”; ee is long. Stress the first syllable: KO-.