Plurals of Professions: -lieden and -lui
In Dutch, compound nouns ending in -man that indicate a traditional profession or demographic often do not take standard plural endings (like -mannen). Instead, they have irregular plurals where the suffix changes completely.
The Suffixes -lieden and -lui
To form the plural of these professions, replace -man with either -lieden or -lui.
- -lieden is more formal, often used in writing and formal speech.
- -lui is more informal, commonly used in everyday spoken Dutch.
Both words historically mean "people" or "folk". Let's see this in action with maritime and historical trades, starting with the sailor (de zeeman).
| the sailor | de zeeman |
| The old sailors drink coffee in the port. | De oude zeelieden drinken koffie in de haven. |
| The sailors go to the port to work. | De zeelui gaan naar de haven om te werken. |
The same pattern applies to merchants (de koopman):
| The merchants are expected to pay the taxes. | De kooplieden worden geacht de belasting te betalen. |
| We saw many merchants, and we invited three friendly ones. | We zagen veel kooplui, en we hebben er drie vriendelijke uitgenodigd. |
Everyday Trades and Occupations
You will encounter this rule with many other trades and occupations, such as businessmen (de zakenman), craftsmen (de vakman), carpenters (de timmerman), and firefighters (de brandweerman). For these, you can typically choose between -lieden and -lui based on your desired level of formality.
| The businessmen are rich. Moreover, they have a lot of influence. | De zakenlieden zijn rijk. Bovendien hebben ze veel invloed. |
| The businessmen behaved well yesterday. | De zakenlui hebben zich gisteren goed gedragen. |
| Those craftsmen repaired the bridge perfectly. | Die vaklieden hebben de brug perfect gerepareerd. |
| We need good carpenters, and we are looking for two fast ones. | Wij hebben goede timmerlui nodig, en we zoeken er twee snelle. |
| The firefighters are expected to save the building. | De brandweerlieden worden geacht het gebouw te redden. |
Formal Titles Restricting -lui
While everyday trades freely use both endings, highly formal, political, or legal titles almost exclusively use the formal -lieden. Using the informal -lui for a government minister (de bewindsman) or a legal counsel (de raadsman) would sound inappropriately casual. Traditional artisans (de ambachtsman) also typically use -lieden.
| The artisans make furniture. Additionally, they sell clothes. | De ambachtslieden maken meubels. Daarnaast verkopen ze kleren. |
| The government ministers apologized for the mistake. | De bewindslieden hebben zich verontschuldigd voor de fout. |
| The legal counsels are the ones who evaluate the contract. | De raadslieden zijn degenen die het contract beoordelen. |
