From or out of (-dan / -den)

The Ablative Case: "From" or "Out Of"

To express coming "from" a place, taking something "out of" a container, or buying something "from" someone, Turkish uses the ablative case suffix. The basic forms are -dan and -den.

As always, vowel harmony dictates the choice:

  • Words whose last vowel is a back vowel (a, ı, o, u) take -dan.
  • Words whose last vowel is a front vowel (e, i, ö, ü) take -den.
We are buying fresh fruit from the bazaar.
Pazardan taze meyve alıyoruz.
The woman is buying bread from the bakery.
Kadın fırından ekmek alıyor.
I am buying milk and eggs from the grocery store.
Bakkaldan süt ve yumurta alıyorum.

Consonant Mutation: -tan and -ten

When a word ends in a hard consonant (f, s, t, k, ç, ş, h, p — often remembered as Fıstıkçı Şahap), the d in the suffix hardens into a t. This means -dan becomes -tan, and -den becomes -ten.

For example, market ends in a hard consonant (t) and its last vowel is front (e), so it takes -ten.

When are you coming out of the market?
Marketten ne zaman çıkıyorsun?
He is taking fruit out of the bag.
O poşetten meyve alıyor.

Common Verbs with the Ablative Case

The ablative case naturally pairs with verbs describing movement away from a source, like returning or exiting.

I am coming out of the bakery now.
Şimdi fırından çıkıyorum.
They are returning from the bazaar.
Onlar pazardan dönüyorlar.

You also use the ablative case to express receiving, wanting, or taking things "from" someone, such as a satıcı (seller).

We want fresh tomatoes from the seller.
Satıcıdan taze domates istiyoruz.
I am getting a bag from the seller.
Ben satıcıdan poşet alıyorum.