Breakdown of Bu kadar gevrek böreği görünce yemeden edemiyorum.
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What does bu kadar mean here?
Here bu kadar means this much / to this degree / so.
Because it comes before the adjective gevrek, it is talking about the degree of crispiness, not the amount of börek.
So:
- bu kadar gevrek = this crispy / so crispy
- bu kadar börek would mean this much börek / this many pastries
In this sentence, bu kadar gevrek böreği is roughly a börek this crispy or such a crispy börek.
Why is it böreği and not just börek?
Because böreği is the direct object of görünce (when I see), and Turkish often marks a specific direct object with the accusative ending -(y)ı / -(y)i / -(y)u / -(y)ü.
So:
- börek görünce = when I see börek in a more general sense
- böreği görünce = when I see the/that specific börek
English uses articles like a and the, but Turkish often shows this kind of distinction with case endings instead.
Why does börek become böreği? Where did the k go?
This is a very common Turkish sound change.
Many Turkish words ending in p, ç, t, k soften when a vowel-initial suffix is added. So:
- börek
- -i → böreği
- not böreki
This kind of change is also seen in:
- kitap → kitabı
- ağaç → ağacı
- kanat → kanadı
So the ending is still the accusative -i; the stem changes slightly when the suffix is added.
What does görünce mean, and how is it formed?
Görünce comes from görmek (to see) plus the suffix -ınca / -ince / -unca / -ünce, which usually means when, once, or upon doing something.
So:
- görmek = to see
- görünce = when seeing / when I see / upon seeing
This suffix is very common in Turkish:
- gelince = when he/she/it comes
- bitirince = when he/she/it finishes
- duyunca = when he/she/it hears
Does görünce mean when I see or just when someone sees?
By itself, görünce does not explicitly say who the subject is.
In sentences like this, the subject is usually understood from the main verb and from context. Since the main verb is edemiyorum, which is first person singular (I can’t), the natural reading is:
- görünce = when I see
So the sentence is understood as:
- When I see a börek this crispy, I can’t help eating it.
What does yemeden edemiyorum mean?
This is a very important Turkish pattern.
Verb + -meden/-madan edememek means:
- to be unable not to do something
- more naturally in English: to can’t help doing something
- or to can’t resist doing something
So:
- yemeden edemiyorum = I can’t help eating it
- literally, something like I can’t manage without eating
Other examples:
- Gülmeden edemiyorum. = I can’t help laughing.
- Bakmadan edemedi. = He/She couldn’t help looking.
Why is there a negative form in yemeden if the overall meaning is positive?
Because -meden / -madan means without doing.
So:
- yemeden = without eating
But the whole structure yemeden edemiyorum is idiomatic. It does not mean a simple negative like I don’t eat. Instead, it means:
- I can’t refrain from eating
- I can’t help eating
So the negative part is part of the pattern, not a contradiction.
Why is etmek used after another verb here?
In -meden edememek, etmek is part of a fixed idiomatic construction. It does not keep its full ordinary meaning of to do.
So you should learn Verb + -meden edememek as a chunk:
- yemeden edememek = to be unable to resist eating
- sormadan edememek = to be unable to stop oneself from asking
- düşünmeden edememek = to be unable not to think about it
This is one of those structures that is best understood as a set expression rather than translated word by word.
Why isn’t ben included?
Because Turkish often leaves out subject pronouns when the verb already makes the subject clear.
Edemiyorum already tells you the subject is I.
So:
- edemiyorum = I can’t
- ben is not necessary
If ben were added, it would usually give extra emphasis:
- Ben ... edemiyorum. = I can’t help it / I just can’t resist
What tense is edemiyorum?
It is in the -iyor form, often called the present continuous.
But in Turkish, this form can also express a more general or habitual meaning, not only something happening right this second.
So here edemiyorum can mean:
- I can’t help eating it in general
- Whenever I see it, I can’t resist
- and depending on context, it can also feel quite immediate
So even though the form is technically present continuous, the meaning in English is often broader than a strict am doing form.
Is böreği singular or plural? How should I think about it in English?
Grammatically, böreği is singular.
However, Turkish does not use articles the same way English does, so depending on context you might translate it as:
- the börek
- that börek
- a börek this crispy
What matters most here is that it is being treated as a specific object, not as börek in general.
Could this also be said with bir, like bu kadar gevrek bir börek?
Yes, that is possible.
A phrase like bu kadar gevrek bir börek means a börek this crispy / such a crispy börek and sounds very natural too.
The difference is mainly about specificity:
- bu kadar gevrek bir börek = a börek this crispy; less specific, more like one example of such a thing
- bu kadar gevrek böreği = a more specific object, especially because of the accusative ending
So the sentence you were given is not wrong; it just presents the börek as something more definite or specifically in view.
Why is the word order like this? Could it be changed?
Turkish word order is flexible, but the given order is very natural.
The sentence is arranged roughly like this:
- Bu kadar gevrek böreği = the thing being talked about
- görünce = when I see it
- yemeden edemiyorum = I can’t help eating it
Turkish often puts the main verb at the end, and that is exactly what happens here.
Starting with Bu kadar gevrek böreği gives strong emphasis to the tempting object itself. In other words, the sentence begins by highlighting the thing that causes the reaction.
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