Questions & Answers about Wir geben den Trödel weiter.
Why is weiter at the end of the sentence?
Because the full verb is weitergeben, which is a separable verb.
- Infinitive: weitergeben = to pass on / to hand along
- In a normal present-tense main clause, the verb splits:
- geben goes to the usual verb position
- weiter goes to the end
So:
- Wir geben den Trödel weiter.
- literally: We give the clutter on
- natural English: We pass the clutter on.
This is very common in German with separable verbs:
- Ich stehe früh auf. = I get up early.
- Sie ruft mich an. = She calls me.
Is geben ... weiter the same as weitergeben?
Yes. They are the same verb.
You will see it in two main forms:
- Infinitive / dictionary form: weitergeben
- Conjugated main clause: geben ... weiter
Examples:
- Wir wollen den Trödel weitergeben.
Here the infinitive stays together because it is at the end. - Wir geben den Trödel weiter.
Here it splits because the sentence is a main clause.
So if you look it up in a dictionary, search for weitergeben, not just weiter.
Why is it den Trödel and not der Trödel?
Because Trödel is the direct object of the verb, so it is in the accusative case.
The noun is masculine:
- nominative: der Trödel
- accusative: den Trödel
Here, wir is the subject and den Trödel is what is being passed on:
- Wir = subject, nominative
- den Trödel = direct object, accusative
Compare:
- Der Trödel ist alt. = The clutter/junk is old.
(der Trödel = subject) - Wir geben den Trödel weiter. = We pass on the clutter/junk.
(den Trödel = object)
What exactly does Trödel mean?
Trödel usually means junk, clutter, odds and ends, bric-a-brac, old stuff.
It often has a slightly informal feel. It can refer to things that are:
- old
- not very valuable
- lying around
- no longer needed
Depending on context, English translations could be:
- junk
- clutter
- old stuff
- odds and ends
Related words:
- der Trödelladen = junk shop / second-hand shop
- der Trödelmarkt or Flohmarkt = flea market
So den Trödel weitergeben suggests passing unwanted or old stuff on to someone else.
Does weitergeben mean only physically handing something to someone?
No. Weitergeben can be used both literally and figuratively.
Literal use
- Kannst du mir das Salz weitergeben?
= Can you pass me the salt?
Figurative use
- Ich gebe die Information weiter.
= I’ll pass on the information. - Bitte geben Sie meine Nachricht weiter.
= Please pass on my message.
In Wir geben den Trödel weiter, it most likely means physically passing unwanted items on to someone else, donating them, or handing them along.
Can I also say Wir geben weiter den Trödel?
That would sound unnatural in normal German.
The most natural order is:
- Wir geben den Trödel weiter.
Why? Because with a separable verb in a main clause:
- the conjugated verb goes early: geben
- the object usually comes before the separable prefix: den Trödel
- the prefix goes at the end: weiter
So the standard pattern is:
subject + conjugated verb + object + separable prefix
There are special cases where word order can change for emphasis, but for a learner, Wir geben den Trödel weiter is the safe and natural version.
Could I replace den Trödel with a pronoun?
Yes.
You would say:
- Wir geben ihn weiter.
Because Trödel is masculine, the accusative pronoun is ihn.
Forms:
- der Trödel → er in nominative
- den Trödel → ihn in accusative
Example:
- Was macht ihr mit dem Trödel?
- Wir geben ihn weiter.
Is weitergeben similar to English give away?
Sometimes, yes, but not always exactly.
Weitergeben usually means:
- pass on
- hand on
- give on to someone else
Depending on context, English might use:
- pass on
- hand over
- give away
- donate
For example:
- alte Kleidung weitergeben
could mean pass on old clothes or give away old clothes - Informationen weitergeben
is clearly pass on information, not give away in the sense of revealing a secret
So give away can fit in some contexts, but pass on is often the most neutral translation.
Why is wir included? Can German drop the subject like some other languages?
Normally, standard German does not drop the subject pronoun in this kind of sentence.
So you say:
- Wir geben den Trödel weiter.
Not usually:
- Geben den Trödel weiter.
German verbs do change by person, but not enough for subjects to be freely omitted in ordinary standard usage. So unlike Spanish or Italian, German usually keeps the subject pronoun.
How would this sentence look in other tenses?
Here are some common versions:
Present
- Wir geben den Trödel weiter.
= We pass on the junk/clutter.
Perfect
- Wir haben den Trödel weitergegeben.
Notice that in the past participle, the separable prefix rejoins the verb:- weitergegeben
Simple past
- Wir gaben den Trödel weiter.
Future
- Wir werden den Trödel weitergeben.
This helps show the underlying verb clearly:
- infinitive: weitergeben
- past participle: weitergegeben
How is Trödel pronounced?
Trödel is pronounced approximately like TRUR-del or TRER-del, but the ö sound does not exist naturally in standard English, so that is only an approximation.
A few tips:
- Tr = like English tr
- ö = rounded vowel; say something like eh or ur while rounding your lips
- del = like del in delicate, but shorter
A rough learner-friendly guide:
- TRÖ-del
If you know the German word schön, the ö is the same vowel.
Can this sentence imply donating or rehoming things rather than just literally passing them from hand to hand?
Yes, definitely.
In context, Wir geben den Trödel weiter can suggest:
- passing items on to someone else
- getting rid of unwanted stuff by giving it to another person
- donating or rehoming old belongings
So even though weitergeben literally means pass on, the real meaning can be broader depending on the situation.
For example, if people are cleaning out a house, this sentence might mean:
- We’re passing the old stuff on
- We’re giving the junk away
- We’re finding someone else to take it
So the exact English wording depends on context, even though the German grammar stays the same.
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