Mi treniramo u dvorani, a ostali treniraju u parku.

Breakdown of Mi treniramo u dvorani, a ostali treniraju u parku.

mi
we
u
in
a
and
park
park
trenirati
to train
dvorana
hall
ostali
others
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Questions & Answers about Mi treniramo u dvorani, a ostali treniraju u parku.

Can the mi be left out? In English we have to say we train, but I’ve seen Croatian sentences without subject pronouns.

Yes, mi can be left out here.

  • Mi treniramo u dvorani = Treniramo u dvorani
    Both mean We train in the hall / gym.

Croatian verb endings already show the person:

  • treniramo clearly shows 1st person plural (we)

So the full sentence without mi would be:

  • Treniramo u dvorani, a ostali treniraju u parku.

Using mi just emphasizes we a bit more (e.g. in contrast to others).

What is the difference between treniramo and treniraju?

They are different present tense forms of the verb trenirati (to train):

  • treniramo = we train (1st person plural)
  • treniraju = they train (3rd person plural)

Present tense of trenirati:

  • ja treniram – I train
  • ti treniraš – you (sg) train
  • on/ona/ono trenira – he/she/it trains
  • mi treniramo – we train
  • vi trenirate – you (pl/formal) train
  • oni/one/ona treniraju – they train

So the verb changes instead of adding a subject pronoun like in English.

Why is it u dvorani and not u dvorana? What is this -i ending?

Dvorana is a feminine noun:

  • base form (nominative singular): dvorana – hall / sports hall

After the preposition u meaning in (location, static place), Croatian uses the locative case.
For feminine nouns like dvorana, the locative singular ending is usually -i:

  • u dvorani = in the hall / in the gym

So:

  • dvorana (dictionary form, subject)
  • u dvorani (in the hall – locative, after u for location)
Why is it u parku and not u park? What does the -u ending mean?

Park is a masculine noun:

  • base form (nominative singular): park

Again, u with a static location uses the locative case.
For many masculine nouns ending in a consonant, the locative singular ending is -u:

  • u parku = in the park

So:

  • park (dictionary form)
  • u parku (in the park – locative singular)
So both u dvorani and u parku are locative? How do I know when to use locative after u?

Yes, both are locative.

The preposition u can take different cases, but a simple rule:

  • u
    • locative = in (location, being inside somewhere)
      • u dvorani – in the hall
      • u parku – in the park
  • u
    • accusative = into (movement into somewhere)
      • Idemo u dvoranu. – We’re going into the hall.
      • Idem u park. – I’m going to the park.

In your sentence, the meaning is where the training happens (location), so locative is used.

Why is there no word for the in u dvorani and u parku? How do I know if it’s “in a hall” or “in the hall”?

Croatian has no articles (no words like a / an / the).

  • u dvorani can be translated as in a hall, in the hall, or in the gym, depending on context.
  • u parku can be in a park or in the park.

Context and previous mention usually tell the listener whether you mean a or the. The Croatian form itself does not change.

What does ostali mean exactly? Is it the same as drugi?

Ostali means the others / the rest.

  • Mi treniramo u dvorani, a ostali treniraju u parku.
    = We train in the hall, and the others train in the park.

Details:

  • ostali is the masculine plural form (it agrees with an implied masculine or mixed group plural noun, like ljudi – people).
  • It has a nuance of the remaining ones / everyone else.

Drugi can also mean other, but:

  • ostali = the rest of the group you’re talking about
  • drugi = other / another, more general, can also mean second in some contexts

Here ostali is more natural because it contrasts “we” with “everyone else” in that group.

Could the sentence say Mi treniramo u dvorani, a oni treniraju u parku instead of ostali?

Yes, that’s also correct, but the meaning is slightly different:

  • Mi treniramo u dvorani, a oni treniraju u parku.
    = We train in the hall, and they train in the park.
    (just we vs they, two groups)

  • Mi treniramo u dvorani, a ostali treniraju u parku.
    = We train in the hall, and the others train in the park.
    (we are part of a larger group, and the rest train somewhere else)

Oni just refers to another group; ostali implies “all the remaining members of the same broader group.”

What is the role of a here? Why isn’t it i?

Both a and i can be translated as and, but they’re used differently:

  • i = simple addition, like and

    • Mi treniramo u dvorani i treniramo u parku.
      (We train in the hall and train in the park – just adding information.)
  • a = and / while / whereas / but in a contrasting sense
    It often contrasts two subjects or situations.

In your sentence:

  • Mi treniramo u dvorani, a ostali treniraju u parku.
    = We train in the hall, while / whereas the others train in the park.

So a emphasizes the contrast between mi and ostali, and between u dvorani and u parku.

Could the word order be changed, like U dvorani mi treniramo, a u parku treniraju ostali? Does that change the meaning?

Yes, Croatian word order is flexible, and that version is grammatically correct:

  • U dvorani mi treniramo, a u parku treniraju ostali.

The basic meaning is the same, but emphasis shifts:

  • Mi treniramo u dvorani, a ostali treniraju u parku.
    → more neutral; slight focus on who does what.

  • U dvorani mi treniramo…
    → emphasizes the place first: In the hall, we train…

  • …a u parku treniraju ostali.
    → again focuses on the place first: and in the park, the others train.

Croatian uses word order partly for emphasis rather than strict grammar.

Does treniramo need a reflexive pronoun, like se treniramo?

In this sentence, no: Mi treniramo u dvorani is correct and natural.

  • trenirati can be:
    • intransitive: Mi treniramo. – We train / practice.
    • transitive: Mi treniramo nogomet. – We train football.

Se treniramo would sound wrong or at least very unusual here.
You might see forms like trenirati se in certain expressions, but for we train (work out / practice), just treniramo is used.

Is there any aspect difference in treniramo? Is it imperfective or perfective?

Trenirati is usually used as an imperfective verb in modern Croatian.

  • Mi treniramo u dvorani describes an ongoing, habitual, or repeated action:
    We train / we are training in the hall.

There is a perfective partner istrenirati (to train up, to train fully), but:

  • You would not use istreniramo in this sentence, because you’re not describing a completed one-time result, but a regular or ongoing activity.

So treniramo here is imperfective present.