Bankta otururken gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü fark ettim.

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What does bankta mean exactly, and what is the function of the -ta ending?

Bankta means "on the bench" (or "on the bank", depending on context).

  • bank = bench / bank (the piece of street furniture here)
  • -ta = locative case ending, meaning "in / on / at"

Because bank ends in a hard consonant (k), the locative ending appears as -ta (not -da), due to consonant harmony:

  • evevde (at home)
  • okulokulda (at school)
  • bankbankta (on the bench)

So bankta = bank + ta = on the bench.

In this sentence, does bank mean "bench" or "bank (financial)"? How do I know?

In this sentence, bank means "bench", not a financial bank.

Turkish uses the same word bank for:

  • a bench (especially in a park or on the street)
  • a bank in the financial sense (usually in compounds like banka hesabı = bank account)

You know it’s “bench” here because of the context:

  • You are sitting (otururken) on it (bankta) and then you drop your glasses.
  • Sitting on a financial bank building is possible but very unlikely; sitting on a bench is the natural reading.

So, bankta otururken is understood as "while sitting on the bench".

How does otururken work grammatically, and why is -ken used?

Otururken means "while (I was) sitting" / "while sitting".

Formally:

  • otur- = verb stem “to sit”
  • -ur- = an aorist-like element (not visible as a separate syllable here in everyday explanations)
  • -ken = a suffix meaning "while / when"

So otururkenoturur + kenwhile (someone) is sitting.

-ken is used to express two actions happening at the same time:

  • Yemek yerken televizyon seyrediyorum.
    I watch TV while eating.

  • Arabayı sürerken telefon kullanma.
    Don’t use the phone while driving.

In your sentence, otururken connects the background action (sitting) with the main event (realizing you dropped the glasses).

Does otururken mean "while I was sitting" or "when I sit"? Is there any tense information in it?

In this sentence, otururken is understood as "while I was sitting" (past, one specific situation).

On its own, otururken doesn’t have a full tense the way English does. Its time reference comes from:

  1. The main verb: fark ettim (past)
  2. The context

So:

  • Bankta otururken gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü fark ettim.
    While I was sitting on the bench, I realized I had dropped my glasses.

But in another context, otururken could be understood as more general:

  • Ben evde otururken genelde müzik dinlerim.
    When I sit at home, I usually listen to music.

So -ken mainly expresses simultaneity ("while / when"); the actual tense is read from the rest of the sentence.

Why is gözlüklerimi in the plural, even though in English we think of "my glasses" as a single object?

Turkish treats glasses literally as two lenses, so it uses the plural:

  • gözlük = (a) pair of glasses, literally “eye-thing”
  • gözlükler = glasses (plural form)

Even when referring to one pair, Turkish commonly uses the plural form gözlükler and then adds personal endings:

  • gözlüklerim = my glasses
  • gözlüklerin = your glasses

So gözlüklerimi is plural because the noun is thought of as a pair / set, just as English uses the plural glasses.

Can you break down the endings in gözlüklerimi? What is the difference between gözlüklerim and gözlüklerimi?

Yes. Gözlüklerimi is:

  • gözlük = glasses
  • -ler = plural
  • -im = my (1st person singular possessive)
  • -i = accusative case (definite direct object marker)

So:

  • gözlüklerim = my glasses (no case ending; could be subject, or object in some contexts)
  • gözlüklerimi = my glasses as a specific direct object (I did something to them)

In this sentence, gözlüklerimi is the thing you dropped, so it must take the accusative:

  • Gözlüklerimi düşürdüm.
    I dropped my glasses.

If you said gözlüklerim düşürdüm, it would be ungrammatical, because a definite direct object with a verb like düşürmek normally needs the -i accusative ending.

What does düşürdüğümü literally mean, and how is it formed from düşürmek?

Düşürdüğümü means "that I dropped (it/them)" as part of a noun clause.

From düşürmek = to drop (something)

Step by step:

  1. düşür- = verb stem
  2. -dük / -diğ type suffix (here as -düğ-)
    • This turns the verb into a verbal noun / clause: düşürdüğüm = “that I dropped” / “the thing that I dropped”
  3. -üm = my / I (1st person singular) – marks the subject of this little clause
  4. = accusative case ending (because this whole clause is the object of fark ettim)

So:

  • düşür-düğ-üm-ü
    = (the fact) that I dropped (it), as a direct object.

That’s why we translate:

  • gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü fark ettim
    = I realized that I had dropped my glasses.
Why do we need the form düşürdüğümü here instead of just düşürdüm?

Because in Turkish, verbs like fark etmek (to realize / notice) normally take a noun clause as their object, not a finite verb clause.

English:

  • I realized that I dropped my glasses.
    Main verb + that-clause

Turkish:

  • Gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü fark ettim.
    Main verb (fark ettim) + a verbal noun phrase (gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü) as its direct object

If you said:

  • Gözlüklerimi düşürdüm, fark ettim.

this would sound like two separate past events:

  1. I dropped my glasses.
  2. I realized (something – but it’s not clearly connected).

Düşürdüğümü allows “the fact that I dropped [them]” to function as a single noun phrase that you realize.

In the phrase gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü fark ettim, what is the direct object of fark ettim?

The direct object of fark ettim is the whole clause:

  • gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü

This entire chunk behaves like a noun meaning “the fact that I dropped my glasses”.

Internally:

  • gözlüklerimi = my glasses (accusative)
  • düşürdüğümü = that I dropped (them) (in accusative, because the whole clause is the object of fark ettim)

Externally:

  • [gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü] fark ettim.
    = I realized [that I dropped my glasses].
Why is fark ettim written as two words and not farkettim?

Because fark etmek is a two‑word verb phrase:

  • fark = difference, awareness
  • etmek = to do / to make

Together, fark etmek = “to notice / to realize”.

In standard spelling:

  • It stays as two words in conjugated forms:
    • fark ettim (I realized)
    • fark ediyorum (I am realizing / noticing)
    • fark edeceğim (I will realize)

Many learners (and even some natives) write it incorrectly as farkettim, but the correct, prescriptive form is fark ettim, two words.

Is there a difference in meaning between fark ettim and something like anladım or farkına vardım in this sentence?

All three can be used to express a similar idea, but there are nuances:

  • fark ettim

    • literally: I noticed / I realized
    • emphasizes the moment of noticing something you hadn’t been aware of.
  • anladım

    • literally: I understood
    • focuses more on intellectual understanding or grasping the situation, not just perceiving it.
  • farkına vardım

    • literally: I came to awareness of it
    • slightly more formal / literary, similar to “I became aware that…”

In your sentence:

  • Bankta otururken gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü fark ettim.
    = While sitting on the bench, I noticed / realized that I had dropped my glasses.

You could say:

  • … düşürdüğümü anladım. → adds a nuance of understanding what had happened
  • … düşürdüğümü farkına vardım. → sounds more formal / emphatic.

But fark ettim is the most natural, neutral choice here.

Can the word order in this sentence be changed, for example: Gözlüklerimi bankta otururken düşürdüğümü fark ettim? Does that sound natural?

Yes, Turkish word order is relatively flexible, especially for emphasis. Your alternative:

  • Gözlüklerimi bankta otururken düşürdüğümü fark ettim.

is grammatical and natural. The nuance:

  • Original: Bankta otururken gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü fark ettim.
    → Slightly more focus on the setting (while sitting on the bench).
  • Variant: Gözlüklerimi bankta otururken düşürdüğümü fark ettim.
    → Slightly more immediate focus on my glasses.

The core structure, however, remains:

  • [Background clause] … otururken
  • [Noun clause] gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü
  • [Main verb] fark ettim
How is the subject "I" expressed in this sentence, since ben does not appear anywhere?

The subject “I” is expressed through verb and possessive endings, not by an explicit pronoun.

  1. düşürdüğümü

    • -üm- → marks 1st person singular (I) inside the noun clause.
    • So düşürdüğüm = that I dropped.
  2. fark ettim

    • -dim ending → I did / I realized (1st person singular past).

Turkish typically omits ben unless needed for emphasis or contrast:

  • (Ben) bankta otururken gözlüklerimi düşürdüğümü fark ettim.

Adding ben is possible but not necessary; the endings already make it clear that the subject is “I”.

If I want to say "I realized that you had dropped my glasses", how would I change düşürdüğümü?

You need to change the person inside the noun clause from “I” to “you”.

Current form:

  • düşürdüğümü
    • düşür-düğ-üm-ü = that I dropped (it/them) (1st person singular, accusative)

For “you (singular)”:

  • düşürdüğünü
    • düşür-düğ-ün-ü = that you dropped (it/them)

So the full sentence becomes:

  • Bankta otururken gözlüklerimi düşürdüğünü fark ettim.
    = While I was sitting on the bench, I realized that you had dropped my glasses.

Here:

  • gözlüklerimi = my glasses
  • düşürdüğünü = that you dropped them
  • fark ettim = I realized.