Breakdown of Bordroya göre bu ay fazla mesai yaptım.
Questions & Answers about Bordroya göre bu ay fazla mesai yaptım.
What does bordroya göre mean, and why is bordro in the form bordroya?
Bordroya göre means according to the payroll / payslip / wage statement.
The word göre is a postposition in Turkish, and it usually requires the noun before it to take the dative ending.
- bordro = payroll, payslip
- bordroya = to/according to the payroll
- göre = according to
So:
- bordroya göre = according to the payroll
This is very common in Turkish:
- bana göre = according to me / in my opinion
- hava durumuna göre = according to the weather forecast
- kurallara göre = according to the rules
Because bordro ends in a vowel, the dative ending appears as -ya:
- bordro + ya → bordroya
What exactly does bordro mean here? Is it payroll or payslip?
It can mean either, depending on context.
In this sentence, bordro most naturally refers to a pay statement, payslip, or salary record—some official record showing work hours or pay.
So Bordroya göre... means something like:
- According to the payslip...
- According to the payroll record...
A native English translation might vary depending on the situation, but the Turkish structure stays the same.
Why is it bu ay and not bu ayda?
Bu ay is the normal way to say this month when it is used as a time expression.
Turkish often uses bare time words without a case ending:
- bugün = today
- yarın = tomorrow
- bu hafta = this week
- bu ay = this month
- geçen yıl = last year
So:
- Bu ay fazla mesai yaptım. = I worked overtime this month.
Using bu ayda would usually sound unnatural here. The locative -da/-de is not normally needed for this kind of simple time expression.
What does fazla mesai mean? Is it a fixed expression?
Yes, fazla mesai is a very common expression meaning overtime.
Literally:
- fazla = extra, too much, excessive
- mesai = work hours / working time / duty time
Together, fazla mesai means extra working time, that is, overtime.
You will often hear:
- fazla mesai yapmak = to do/work overtime
- fazla mesai ücreti = overtime pay
- fazla mesaiye kalmak = to stay for overtime
So in this sentence, fazla mesai yaptım means I worked/did overtime.
Why does Turkish use yaptım here? Why not a verb meaning worked?
Turkish often uses the expression mesai yapmak for to work overtime.
So even though yapmak literally means to do/make, the whole phrase:
- fazla mesai yapmak
means:
- to work overtime
This is a natural Turkish collocation. English and Turkish do not always package actions the same way.
Compare:
- spor yapmak = to do sports / exercise
- alışveriş yapmak = to do shopping
- mesai yapmak = to work / put in work hours
- fazla mesai yapmak = to work overtime
So yaptım here is completely natural.
How is yaptım built grammatically?
Yaptım breaks down as:
- yap- = do, make
- -tı- = past tense
- -m = first person singular, I
So:
- yap-tı-m = I did
Because of sound changes, it becomes yaptım, not yaptım with a separate extra sound. This is just the normal form.
In the full sentence:
- fazla mesai yaptım = I did/worked overtime
Why is there no ben in the sentence?
Because Turkish usually does not need subject pronouns when the verb ending already shows the person.
Here, -m in yaptım already means I.
So:
- fazla mesai yaptım = I worked overtime
You could add ben for emphasis or contrast:
- Ben fazla mesai yaptım. = I worked overtime.
But in a neutral sentence, leaving out ben is more natural.
What is the basic word order of this sentence?
The sentence is:
- Bordroya göre bu ay fazla mesai yaptım.
A natural breakdown is:
- Bordroya göre = according to the payroll
- bu ay = this month
- fazla mesai = overtime
- yaptım = I did/worked
Turkish often puts the verb at the end, so that part is normal.
A rough word-for-word order would be:
- According to the payroll, this month overtime I-did.
In natural English:
- According to the payroll, I worked overtime this month.
Can the word order change?
Yes. Turkish word order is flexible, especially with time expressions and introductory phrases.
For example, all of these are possible, depending on emphasis:
- Bordroya göre bu ay fazla mesai yaptım.
- Bu ay bordroya göre fazla mesai yaptım.
- Bu ay fazla mesai yaptım, bordroya göre.
(less neutral in many contexts)
The original sentence likely puts bordroya göre first to frame the statement as being based on the payroll record.
So the focus is something like:
- According to the payroll...
Does Bordroya göre mean the speaker is not completely sure?
Not necessarily, but it does show that the statement is being based on a source of information.
So the nuance is:
- According to the payroll, I worked overtime this month.
This may suggest:
- the speaker is checking the record,
- the speaker is reporting what the payslip says,
- or the speaker is relying on official documentation.
It does not automatically mean doubt, but it can create a slightly more detached or document-based tone than simply saying:
- Bu ay fazla mesai yaptım. = I worked overtime this month.
Could I also say Bu ay fazla çalıştım? Is it the same?
Not exactly.
- Bu ay fazla çalıştım = I worked a lot this month / I worked more than usual this month
- Bu ay fazla mesai yaptım = I worked overtime this month
The first sentence is broader. It just means you worked a lot.
The second specifically refers to overtime, usually beyond normal scheduled work hours.
So if you mean official or actual overtime, fazla mesai yaptım is better.
Can yaptım be translated as I have done as well as I did?
Sometimes, yes, depending on context.
The Turkish simple past often corresponds to English:
- I did
- sometimes I have done
But in this sentence, the most natural English translation is:
- I worked overtime this month
- or I did overtime this month
Because of the time expression bu ay, English usually prefers a simple past-style translation in this context.
Is mesai always about overtime?
No. Mesai by itself refers more generally to working time, duty hours, or work shift/hours.
Examples:
- Mesai saatleri = working hours
- Mesai bitince = when work ends / after working hours
- Fazla mesai = overtime
So it is fazla mesai specifically that means overtime.
Is this sentence formal, informal, or neutral?
It is mostly neutral.
- bordro is a workplace/payroll word
- fazla mesai is a standard expression
- the grammar is ordinary and natural
So this sentence would fit well in everyday workplace conversation, a discussion about salary, or a comment about a payslip.
It is not slang, and it is not especially formal either.
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