Breakdown of Við semjum um verð við söluaðilann.
Questions & Answers about Við semjum um verð við söluaðilann.
Why does við appear twice, and why does it mean two different things?
They are two different words that just happen to be spelled the same.
- Við at the start = we (subject pronoun)
- við before söluaðilann = with (preposition)
The first one is capitalized only because it starts the sentence. Icelandic often relies on context to tell these apart.
What is semjum, and what is the dictionary form?
Semjum is the 1st person plural present tense form of semja.
So:
- semja = to negotiate, arrange, compose, make an agreement, depending on context
- við semjum = we negotiate
In this sentence, because of the full pattern semja við einhvern um eitthvað, it clearly means negotiate.
Why are both um and við used after the verb?
Because semja often works with this pattern:
semja við einhvern um eitthvað
That means:
- við einhvern = with someone
- um eitthvað = about something / over something
So in your sentence:
A very literal breakdown is:
We negotiate with the seller about price.
Why is it við söluaðilann and not með söluaðilanum?
Because Icelandic does not use the same word for every kind of English with.
- við is often used for interaction, contact, dealing, negotiation, opposition, etc.
- með is more like together with, using, or accompanied by
With semja, Icelandic normally says semja við einhvern = negotiate with someone.
Why does söluaðilann end in -ann?
That ending shows two things:
- it is definite: the seller/dealer
- it is in the accusative singular
A useful comparison:
- söluaðili = a seller/dealer
- söluaðilinn = the seller/dealer (nominative)
- söluaðilann = the seller/dealer (accusative)
It is accusative here because the preposition við takes the accusative in this use.
What does söluaðili mean literally?
It is a compound noun:
So söluaðili literally means something like selling party.
Depending on context, it can be translated as:
- seller
- dealer
- distributor
- retailer
In this sentence, seller or dealer fits well.
What case is verð, and why does it not change form?
Verð is in the accusative, because um takes the accusative.
But verð is a neuter singular noun, and many neuter nouns in Icelandic have the same form in nominative and accusative singular.
So even though the case changes grammatically, the word still looks the same:
- nominative: verð
- accusative: verð
That is very common with neuter nouns.
Can the word order be changed?
Yes. A very natural alternative is:
Við semjum við söluaðilann um verð.
That keeps the full verb pattern together:
- semja við einhvern
- um eitthvað
Both versions are understandable and natural. The difference is mostly about focus or style. In your original sentence, um verð comes earlier, which can make the price feel slightly more prominent.
Does semja always mean negotiate?
No. Semja has several meanings, so context matters.
Common meanings include:
- negotiate
- compose
- arrange
- draw up
- make an agreement
For example:
- semja lag = compose a song
- semja samning = draw up / make a contract
- semja við einhvern um verð = negotiate a price with someone
So the prepositions and surrounding words are very important for understanding which meaning is intended.
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