Breakdown of zhè liǎng gè rén shì xiōngdì.
Used when counting nouns or when specifying a specific instance of a noun.
There are also classifiers for people, for bound items such as books and magazines, for cups/glasses, etc.
The classifier 个 is a general one that can be used for any of these.
Questions & Answers about zhè liǎng gè rén shì xiōngdì.
Why is the word order 这两个人 instead of something like 两这个人 or an exact match to English these two people?
Chinese uses this basic order:
demonstrative + number + measure word + noun
So:
- 这 = this / these
- 两 = two
- 个 = measure word
- 人 = person / people
Put together, 这两个人 literally looks like this two [measure word] person, but in natural English it means these two people.
So the pattern is:
- 这个人 = this person
- 这两个人 = these two people
- 那三个人 = those three people
Why is it 两个 and not 二个?
This is a very common question.
In Mandarin, 两 is usually used for two when it comes before a measure word or noun:
- 两个人 = two people
- 两本书 = two books
- 两杯茶 = two cups of tea
二 is more often used for:
- counting numbers
- phone numbers
- math
- fixed expressions
- numbering things in order
Examples:
- 一,二,三
- 二号
- 二月
- 二十
So 两个人 is the normal way to say two people.
What is 个 doing here?
个 is a measure word (also called a classifier).
In Chinese, when you use a number with a noun, you usually need a measure word in between. English does not usually do this, but Chinese does.
So:
- 两个人 = two people
- literally: two + measure word + person
For people, 个 is a very common and general measure word. It is not the only one, but it is the most basic and widely used one for beginners.
Other examples:
- 一个人 = one person
- 三个人 = three people
Does 这 mean this or these here?
Here it means these in natural English.
Chinese does not always mark singular/plural the same way English does. 这 by itself is basically this, but when it is followed by a number greater than one, the whole phrase becomes plural in meaning:
- 这个人 = this person
- 这两个人 = these two people
So 这 itself does not change form, but the whole phrase tells you whether it is singular or plural.
Why does 人 not have a plural ending? Why not something like 人们 here?
Chinese nouns usually do not change form for plural the way English nouns do.
So:
- 人 can mean person or people, depending on context.
- 两个人 already clearly means more than one person, so no extra plural marker is needed.
As for 们:
- 们 is a plural marker used mainly with pronouns and some nouns for people
- but it is not normally used after numbers and measure words
So:
- 我们 = we / us
- 他们 = they / them
But:
- 两个人 = correct
- 两个人们 = incorrect
Why is 是 used here?
是 is the verb to be when connecting one noun phrase to another noun phrase.
In this sentence:
- 这两个人 = the subject
- 是 = are
- 兄弟 = brothers
So the structure is:
A 是 B = A is/are B
Even though English has am / is / are, Chinese uses the same form 是 for all persons and numbers:
- 我是学生。 = I am a student.
- 他是老师。 = He is a teacher.
- 他们是兄弟。 = They are brothers.
Can I leave out 是?
Not in this sentence.
When a noun phrase is being linked to another noun phrase, 是 is normally needed.
So:
- 这两个人是兄弟。 = correct
- 这两个人兄弟。 = not natural / incorrect as a standard sentence
Learners sometimes want to drop 是 because Chinese often omits to be before adjectives, but that is a different pattern.
For example:
- 他很高。 = He is tall.
Here you do not use 是.
But with nouns:
- 他是老师。 = He is a teacher.
Here you do use 是.
What exactly does 兄弟 mean here?
In this sentence, 兄弟 means brothers.
It refers to male siblings. The word historically contains:
- 兄 = older brother
- 弟 = younger brother
But when combined as 兄弟, it often means brothers in general.
So 这两个人是兄弟。 means the two people are male siblings.
A useful note: in some contexts, 兄弟 can also be used more loosely for bros, buddies, or very close male friends, but in a clear sentence like this, the normal meaning is brothers.
Could 兄弟 mean siblings in general, including sisters?
No, not normally.
兄弟 specifically refers to male siblings, or a group of brothers.
If you want to talk about siblings more generally, Chinese uses other expressions, such as:
- 兄弟姐妹 = brothers and sisters / siblings
- 姐妹 = sisters
- 兄妹 = older brother and younger sister
- 姐弟 = older sister and younger brother
So this sentence does not mean These two people are siblings in a gender-neutral sense. It specifically means they are brothers.
How should 这 be pronounced here? I sometimes hear something like zhèi.
Great observation.
The dictionary form is zhè, which is what you see written here. But in natural speech, when 这 comes before a measure word, many speakers pronounce it more like zhèi:
- 这本书
- 这个人
- 这两个人
So in careful written pinyin you may see zhè, but in everyday speech zhèi is very common before classifiers.
Both of these are connected to the same word 这.
Is 个 always pronounced gè with a full fourth tone?
Not always.
In careful citation form, it is gè. But in connected speech, 个 is very often pronounced with a neutral tone:
- 一个人 → often sounds like yí ge rén
- 两个人 → often sounds like liǎng ge rén
- 这两个人 → often sounds like zhèi liǎng ge rén
So learners should recognize both:
- dictionary-style: gè
- natural speech: often a lighter ge
Why is the translation These two people are brothers instead of just These two are brothers?
Both are possible in English, but the Chinese sentence explicitly includes 人, meaning people.
So a very direct translation is:
- These two people are brothers.
A more natural English translation in many situations could be:
- These two are brothers.
Chinese often keeps nouns where English might leave them out. Including 人 makes the phrase very clear and complete.
Is this a normal everyday sentence, or would native speakers say it differently?
It is a normal and correct sentence.
A native speaker might also say other versions depending on context, for example:
- 这两个人是兄弟。 = These two people are brothers.
- 他们是兄弟。 = They are brothers.
- 这俩人是兄弟。 = These two are brothers.
This is more colloquial spoken Mandarin.
But the sentence you have is standard, clear, and very good for learning the grammar pattern.
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