In Turkish, the ablative case suffixes -den and -dan normally translate to "from". However, they have another very common use: the partitive.
When you want to say you are using, taking, or choosing "some of" a larger group of items—like picking a few gemstones from a box to make a necklace—you attach the ablative suffix to the noun.
Structure: Noun + Plural + Ablative
To say "some of the [items]", we typically pluralize the noun first, then add the ablative suffix. Since the plural suffixes (-ler / -lar) end in the consonant r, you will always use -den after -ler and -dan after -lar.
- inci (pearl) + -ler
- -den = incilerden (some of the pearls)
- yakut (ruby) + -lar
- -dan = yakutlardan (some of the rubies)
Let's see this in action as we select materials for our jewelry design:
| I am taking some of the pearls and stringing them onto the wire. | İncilerden alıp tele diziyorum. |
| I want to use some of the rubies and sapphires in the design. | Tasarımda yakutlardan ve safirlerden kullanmak istiyorum. |
Expressing existence with "var"
You can also use this partitive structure with var (there is / there are) to express that "there are some of" a certain item available, or pair it with pointing words like bu (this/these).
| There are some of the diamonds and emeralds in the box. | Kutuda elmaslardan ve zümrütlerden var. |
| I will choose some of these crystals and attach them to the gold chain. | Bu kristallerden seçip altın zincire takacağım. |