Expressing 'some of' (-den/-dan)

In Turkish, the ablative case suffixes -den and -dan normally translate to "from". However, they have another very common use: the partitive.

When you want to say you are using, taking, or choosing "some of" a larger group of items—like picking a few gemstones from a box to make a necklace—you attach the ablative suffix to the noun.

Structure: Noun + Plural + Ablative

To say "some of the [items]", we typically pluralize the noun first, then add the ablative suffix. Since the plural suffixes (-ler / -lar) end in the consonant r, you will always use -den after -ler and -dan after -lar.

  • inci (pearl) + -ler
    • -den = incilerden (some of the pearls)
  • yakut (ruby) + -lar
    • -dan = yakutlardan (some of the rubies)

Let's see this in action as we select materials for our jewelry design:

I am taking some of the pearls and stringing them onto the wire.
İncilerden alıp tele diziyorum.
I want to use some of the rubies and sapphires in the design.
Tasarımda yakutlardan ve safirlerden kullanmak istiyorum.

Expressing existence with "var"

You can also use this partitive structure with var (there is / there are) to express that "there are some of" a certain item available, or pair it with pointing words like bu (this/these).

There are some of the diamonds and emeralds in the box.
Kutuda elmaslardan ve zümrütlerden var.
I will choose some of these crystals and attach them to the gold chain.
Bu kristallerden seçip altın zincire takacağım.