Breakdown of Tren geciktiği halde zamanında geldik.
tren
the train
gecikmek
to be late
gelmek
to arrive
zamanında
on time
-diği halde
although
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Questions & Answers about Tren geciktiği halde zamanında geldik.
What does the construction -DIĞI halde mean here?
It is a concessive construction meaning “although/even though.” Literally it’s “in the state that …,” where a verb is turned into a noun-like form with -DIK plus a possessive ending, followed by halde “in the state/condition.” So geciktiği halde ≈ “although (it) was late.”
Why is it geciktiği and not just gecikti?
Gecikti is a finite past-tense verb (“(it) was late”). Geciktiği is a participial form: gecik- (be late) + -DIK (participial/nominalizer) + 3rd person possessive -i → gecik-tiğ-i. The final -k of -DIK softens to -ğ- before the vowel of the possessive suffix, giving -tiği by harmony.
Who was late and who arrived on time?
The subject of the concessive clause is the train (it was late). The subject of the main clause is we (we arrived on time): “Although the train was late, we arrived on time.”
Why is it Tren and not Trenin?
With adverbial clauses formed by -DIĞI halde, the explicit subject of that clause typically appears in the nominative (no -in) before the participle: Tren geciktiği halde. Using a genitive subject here is generally avoided. If you switch to rağmen, then you use a verbal noun with genitive: Trenin gecikmesine rağmen.
Can I say it with rağmen?
Yes. Natural equivalents:
- Trenin gecikmesine rağmen zamanında geldik.
- Tren geç kalmasına rağmen zamanında geldik.
Form: verb stem + -mA
- possessive + -nA
- rağmen.
- possessive + -nA
Could I use -se de/-sa da instead?
Yes: Tren gecikse de zamanında geldik. You can also say Tren gecikmiş olsa da … or … olsa bile …. These are also concessive (“even though/even if”).
How does agreement work in geciktiği?
The possessive ending on the participle agrees with the subject of the concessive clause:
- Ben geciktiğim halde …
- Sen geciktiğin halde …
- O geciktiği halde …
- Biz geciktiğimiz halde …
- Siz geciktiğiniz halde …
- Onlar geciktikleri halde … (3rd-plural is often heard as the 3sg form in speech, but -leri is the careful form.)
Do I always use a bare verb before halde, or sometimes olduğu halde?
- With a verb, use the participle: gecik-tiği halde.
- With an adjective or noun predicate, use olduğu halde: yorgun olduğu halde (“although (s/he) is tired”), öğrenci olduğu halde (“although (s/he) is a student”).
Is a comma required after the concessive clause?
Not required. You may write a comma to aid readability: Tren geciktiği halde, zamanında geldik. Both with and without a comma are acceptable.
Can I reorder the sentence?
Yes. Adverbial clauses can move: Zamanında geldik, tren geciktiği halde. Initial position is more typical, but final position is possible in context.
What does zamanında literally mean? Any synonyms?
Literally “at its time” (from zaman + 3sg possessive -ı + locative -nda). It functions as the adverb “on time.” Common synonyms: vaktinde, tam zamanında.
Is there any tense nuance in geciktiği?
Yes. -DIĞI here presents the action as realized relative to the main event—“the train (having) been late.” For an ongoing/hypothetical nuance, use forms like gecikse de or gecikiyor olsa da.
What’s the difference between gecikmek and geç kalmak?
- gecikmek = “to be delayed” (often used for services/vehicles/schedules).
- geç kalmak = “to be late (for something)” (very common for people; also used for vehicles in everyday speech). Both are fine in this context.
Could I use vardık instead of geldik?
Yes. Zamanında vardık also means “we arrived on time.” Gelmek is the everyday “come/arrive”; varmak is “arrive/reach,” often a bit more formal or precise.
How do I pronounce the tricky letters in geciktiği and zamanında?
- ğ lengthens the preceding vowel; in -tiği it’s like “tee-yee” with a gentle glide (no hard “g” sound).
- ı (dotless i) is a central vowel, like a relaxed “uh.” So zamanında ≈ “zah-mah-nuhn-dah”; geciktiği ≈ “geh-jik-TEE-yee.”