Word
Ne otobüs ne tren geldi.
Meaning
Neither the bus nor the train arrived.
Part of speech
sentence
Pronunciation
Course
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Breakdown of Ne otobüs ne tren geldi.
otobüs
the bus
gelmek
to come
tren
the train
ne ... ne
neither ... nor
Questions & Answers about Ne otobüs ne tren geldi.
Why is the verb positive (geldi) instead of negative (gelmedi)?
Is it ever okay to say Ne otobüs ne tren gelmedi?
You will hear it in colloquial speech, but in careful/standard Turkish it’s considered non-standard (a kind of double negation). Prefer the affirmative verb: Ne otobüs ne tren geldi.
Do I need the de after the second ne (as in ne ... ne de ...)?
- Both are fine: Ne otobüs ne tren geldi and Ne otobüs ne de tren geldi.
- Using ne de is very common and sounds slightly more natural.
- Only the second (and later) ne takes de; the first does not.
- It’s written separately: ne de.
- It is always de (never da) here, because it attaches to ne, whose vowel is e.
Should the verb be singular or plural?