Breakdown of Droppsonen er nær, og utkastfeltet for den saks skyld.
Questions & Answers about Droppsonen er nær, og utkastfeltet for den saks skyld.
Why do droppsonen and utkastfeltet end in -en and -et?
Those endings show the definite form in Norwegian:
- droppsone = a drop zone
droppsonen = the drop zone
- utkastfelt = an out-of-bounds area / throw-off area / discard area depending on context
- utkastfeltet = the ... area
The different endings come from the noun gender:
- -en is a common definite ending for masculine nouns
- -et is the definite ending for many neuter nouns
So this sentence is talking about the drop zone and the outcast/out-of-bounds area, not just any such zone or area.
Why is it er nær and not er nærme?
In standard Norwegian, nær is the most natural word here.
- nær = near / close
- nærme exists in some varieties and in speech, but many learners are taught to prefer nær in careful written Norwegian.
So:
- Droppsonen er nær = The drop zone is near / nearby
You should think of nær as the safer standard choice.
What exactly is nær doing here grammatically?
Here nær is used predicatively, meaning it comes after the verb er and describes the subject.
Structure:
- Droppsonen = subject
- er = verb
- nær = predicate adjective/adverb-like complement
So it works much like English is near or is close by.
In this sentence, nær is not modifying a noun directly. It is saying something about droppsonen.
Compare:
den nære sonen = the nearby zone
Here nære comes before the noun.sonen er nær = the zone is near
Here nær comes after the verb.
Why is there no er nær after og utkastfeltet?
Because Norwegian often leaves out repeated words when they are already understood from the first part of the sentence.
Full version:
- Droppsonen er nær, og utkastfeltet er nær for den saks skyld.
Natural shortened version:
- Droppsonen er nær, og utkastfeltet for den saks skyld.
This is called ellipsis. English does the same thing:
- The drop zone is near, and the out-of-bounds area too, for that matter.
So the missing er nær is understood automatically.
What does for den saks skyld mean?
It is an idiomatic expression meaning something like:
- for that matter
- as far as that goes
- for that matter, too
It adds an extra point that supports or extends what was just said.
In this sentence, the speaker says:
- The drop zone is near
- and then adds:
- and the outcast/out-of-bounds area too, for that matter
So for den saks skyld has a slightly conversational tone. It often means something like and actually the same goes for...
Why is it for den saks skyld and not for den saken skyld?
Because for den saks skyld is a fixed expression.
The word saks is an old-style genitive form of sak. In modern Norwegian, this kind of -s genitive survives in many set phrases.
So learners should usually memorize for den saks skyld as a complete idiom, rather than trying to build it word by word.
A useful way to remember it is:
- sak = matter / issue
- for den saks skyld = for that matter
What is the function of og here?
Og simply means and, but here it links not two full clauses, but:
- a full statement: Droppsonen er nær
- an added noun phrase with omitted words: (og) utkastfeltet (er nær) for den saks skyld
So og introduces an additional item that shares the same idea.
It is similar to English:
- The drop zone is near, and the out-of-bounds area too.
Could the sentence have been written more fully?
Yes. A fuller version would be:
- Droppsonen er nær, og utkastfeltet er nær, for den saks skyld.
Or more naturally:
- Droppsonen er nær, og utkastfeltet også, for den saks skyld.
But Norwegian often prefers the shorter version when the repeated part is obvious.
The original sentence sounds more compact and conversational.
Is for den saks skyld formal or informal?
It is not slang, but it is somewhat idiomatic and conversational.
You can find it in both speech and writing, but it gives the sentence a more natural, spoken feel than a neutral, plain statement would.
For example:
- neutral: Droppsonen er nær, og utkastfeltet også.
- more idiomatic/conversational: Droppsonen er nær, og utkastfeltet for den saks skyld.
So it is perfectly normal, but it has a bit of personality.
Why is there a comma after nær?
The comma helps separate the main statement from the added comment:
- Droppsonen er nær
- og utkastfeltet for den saks skyld
Because the second part is somewhat elliptical and includes an idiomatic afterthought, the comma makes the sentence easier to read.
In practice, this comma reflects the rhythm of the sentence more than some deep grammar rule. It signals a pause before the extra remark.
Can nær mean both near and close?
Yes. In many contexts, nær can be translated as either:
- near
- close
- sometimes nearby
Which English word sounds best depends on context.
So:
- Droppsonen er nær could be rendered as:
- The drop zone is near
- The drop zone is close
- The drop zone is nearby
All of those capture the basic idea.
Is the sentence natural Norwegian?
Yes, especially if the context makes droppsone and utkastfelt meaningful terms.
What may feel unusual to a learner is:
- the omitted repeated words after og
- the idiom for den saks skyld
But both are normal features of real Norwegian.
A learner-friendly paraphrase would be:
- Droppsonen er nær, og det samme gjelder utkastfeltet.
That means roughly:
- The drop zone is near, and the same goes for the out-of-bounds area.
The original sentence is just shorter and more idiomatic.
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