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Chúle niúnǎi yǐwài, tā hái xǐhuan miànbāo.

除了Chúle　牛奶niúnǎi　以外yǐwài，　她tā　还hái　喜欢xǐhuan　面包miànbāo。Chúle niúnǎi yǐwài, tā hái xǐhuan miànbāo.
Besides milk, she also likes bread.
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Questions & Answers about Chúle niúnǎi yǐwài, tā hái xǐhuan miànbāo.

Does 除了…以外 mean “besides” or “except”?

Both, depending on what follows.

  • Inclusive (“besides/in addition to”): 除了A以外，S还/也B。 Example: 除了牛奶以外，她还喜欢面包。 = Besides A, S also B.
  • Exclusive (“except for”): 除了A以外，S都/全… (often with negation). Example: 除了牛奶以外，她什么都不喜欢。 = Except for A, S doesn’t like anything else.
Is 以外 required? Can I say 除了牛奶，她还喜欢面包?
In careful/standard usage, keep 以外 (or 之外). You will hear 除了牛奶，她还喜欢面包 in speech, but 除了…以外/之外 is safer and more widely accepted, especially in writing.
What’s the difference between 以外 and 之外?
They mean the same (“outside of/besides”). 之外 feels a bit more formal/literary. Both are fine: 除了牛奶以外/之外，她还喜欢面包。
Where does 还 go? Is 她喜欢还面包 ever correct?
还 is an adverb and goes before the verb/adjective: 她还喜欢面包. 她喜欢还面包 is incorrect.
Should I use 还 or 也 here?

Both can work; nuance differs:

  • 还 emphasizes “in addition; on top of that” and is especially natural after 除了…以外: 她还喜欢面包.
  • 也 emphasizes similarity/parallel: 她也喜欢面包 (often when mirroring another clause or subject). With 除了…以外, 还 is slightly more expected, but 也 is acceptable.
Could 还 here mean “still”?
还 can mean “still,” but in the pattern 除了A以外，…还… it virtually always means “also/in addition.” Context and the 除了-frame disambiguate it.
Can the subject come before 除了…以外?

Yes. Both are natural:

  • 除了牛奶以外，她还喜欢面包。
  • 她除了牛奶以外，还喜欢面包。 The first front-loads the “besides” frame; the second reads more like ordinary subject-first speech. No meaning change here.
How do I say “Except for milk, she doesn’t like anything else”?

Use the exclusive pattern with a scope word like 都/什么都:

  • 除了牛奶以外，她什么都不喜欢。
  • 她除了牛奶以外，别的都不喜欢。
How do I list multiple extra items?

Put all the added items after the verb (use 和/跟 for “and”):

  • 除了牛奶以外，她还喜欢面包和奶酪。 You only need 还 once.
Can 除了 take a verb phrase?

Yes. After 除了 you can put a noun or a verb phrase:

  • 除了牛奶以外，她还喜欢面包。
  • 除了喝牛奶以外，她还喝豆浆。
Is 喜欢 right for food, or should it be 喜欢吃/爱吃?

All are possible:

  • 喜欢面包 is fine (general liking).
  • 喜欢吃面包 makes it explicit it’s about eating and is very natural.
  • 爱吃面包 is common colloquially (“fond of eating”). In many food contexts, 喜欢吃/爱吃 feels more idiomatic than bare 喜欢.
Do I need measure words for 牛奶 and 面包?

Not when speaking generally. For quantities, use measure words:

  • 一杯牛奶 (a cup of milk), 一盒牛奶 (a carton), 一瓶牛奶 (a bottle)
  • 一片面包 (a slice), 一块面包 (a piece/roll), 一个面包 (a whole loaf/bun, depending on context)
Any pronunciation or tone traps here?
  • 除了 chúle (2 + neutral)
  • 牛奶 niúnǎi (2 + 3)
  • 以外 yǐwài (3 + 4)
  • 她 tā (1)
  • 还 hái (2; not huán which means “to return”)
  • 喜欢 xǐhuan (3 + neutral; second syllable is neutral, not 1st/4th)
  • 面包 miànbāo (4 + 1) Note: Third-tone syllables are often realized as a “half-3rd” before non–third tones in natural speech; the spelling stays the same.
Can I drop the subject 她 if it’s clear from context?

Yes, Chinese is pro-drop. If the subject is obvious, you can say:

  • 除了牛奶以外，还喜欢面包。 In writing or when context isn’t crystal clear, keep 她.
Is the comma after 以外 necessary?
Yes, in writing you normally pause there: 除了牛奶以外，… In speech you’d naturally pause too. It’s standard punctuation for the fronted adverbial phrase.
How do I ask “Besides milk, what else does she like?”
  • 除了牛奶以外，她还喜欢什么？ You can answer with a noun: 她还喜欢面包。
What changes if I negate the second part?

Place 不/没 before the verb:

  • Inclusive but negative: 除了牛奶以外，她也不喜欢面包。 (Besides milk, she also doesn’t like bread.)
  • Be careful: if your intended meaning is the exclusive “only milk,” use the exclusive pattern: 除了牛奶以外，她什么都不喜欢。
Should I use 再 instead of 还?

Not here. 再 usually means “again” (future/repetition). For “also/in addition,” use 还 or 也:

  • Correct: 她还喜欢面包。
  • Incorrect here: 她再喜欢面包。
Can I use 还有?

Use 还有 to add nouns to a noun list, not before a verb phrase:

  • Noun list: 她喜欢牛奶，（还）有 面包。
  • Verb phrase: say 她还喜欢面包, not 她还有喜欢面包 (incorrect).
Are there alternative ways to express the same idea?

Yes:

  • 此外，她还喜欢面包。 (Besides this, she also likes bread.)
  • 她不仅喜欢牛奶，而且喜欢面包。 (Not only milk, but also bread.) These vary in tone and structure but convey similar “also/in addition” meanings.
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