Breakdown of Sinun kannattaa pyytää kunniamerkki itse majesteetilta.
sinä
you
pyytää
to ask for
itse
self, oneself
kannattaa
to be profitable / to be worth it
kunniamerkki
decoration of honour
majesteetti
majesty
Questions & Answers about Sinun kannattaa pyytää kunniamerkki itse majesteetilta.
Why doesn't itse take the ablative case to match majesteetilta?
Could I put itse after the noun instead, like majesteetilta itseltään?
Yes, but then the grammar changes. If you place it after the noun, it behaves like a normal pronoun: it has to match the noun's case and take a possessive suffix. The uninflected shortcut itse only works when placed immediately before the noun.
Why is the object kunniamerkki in its basic dictionary form rather than the genitive kunniamerkin?
The sentence uses the necessity structure sinun kannattaa ('you should' or 'it is worthwhile for you'). With necessity verbs like kannattaa, täytyy, or pitää, a complete object doesn't take the typical genitive -n ending. Instead, it takes a form that looks exactly like the basic nominative case.
Why is majesteetti in the ablative case (majesteetilta)?
The verb pyytää (to ask for or request) requires the person you are asking to be in the ablative case (-lta or -ltä). In Finnish logic, you are asking for the item from them.
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