Combining Determiners

English runs a strict one-determiner policy. The books, these books, my books, all books — but never two at once, and the one apparent exception, all the books, feels like a licence rather than a pattern. Greek has no such policy, because its determiners do not compete for a single slot. A word like όλος or αυτός sits outside the article rather than in its place, which leaves room for the next one, and the next.

The result is phrases like όλα αυτά τα παλιά γράμματα — universal, demonstrative, article, adjective, noun — where four of the five words are inflected and every one of them carries the same gender, number and case. Nothing here is new grammar; it is the article rules and case agreement you already have, applied all at once. What is new is the ordering, and the discipline of changing every element when the case changes.

The template

όλος / quantifierdemonstrativeARTICLEnumeraladjectiveNOUNpossessive clitic

Two things are worth reading off that line straight away. First, the article is the pivot: όλος and the demonstrative stand in front of it, while numerals and adjectives stand behind it. Second, the possessive clitic is the only determiner that comes after the noun, so it closes the phrase.

Όλα αυτά τα κουτιά πρέπει να ανέβουν στη σοφίτα πριν το Σάββατο.

óla aftá ta kutiá prépi na anévun sti sofíta prin to Sávato

All these boxes have to go up to the attic before Saturday.

Όλα εκείνα τα παλιά γράμματα ήταν σε ένα κουτί κάτω από το κρεβάτι.

óla ekína ta paliá ghrámata ítan se éna kutí káto apó to kreváti

All those old letters were in a box under the bed.

Ποιος θα πλύνει όλα αυτά τα βρόμικα πιάτα;

pios tha plíni óla aftá ta vrómika piáta;

Who's going to wash all these dirty dishes?

One phrase through three cases

This is the drill that makes the pattern automatic. Take all these new employees and move it through the cases. Nothing is optional: every element shifts, including the noun's own accent.

CasePhraseTypical trigger
Nominativeόλοι αυτοίοι νέοι υπάλληλοιsubject of the verb
Accusativeόλους αυτούς τους νέους υπαλλήλουςdirect object, after a preposition
Genitiveόλων αυτών των νέων υπαλλήλωνpossessor

Notice υπάλληλοι → υπαλλήλους → υπαλλήλων: the noun's stress moves one syllable to the right in the accusative and genitive plural, because Greek does not allow an accent further than three syllables from the end. That is not a determiner rule but ordinary noun behaviour, described on accent shift — it is simply very visible in a long phrase like this one.

Όλοι αυτοί οι νέοι υπάλληλοι ξεκίνησαν την ίδια μέρα.

óli aftí i néi ipálili ksekínisan tin ídhia méra

All these new employees started on the same day.

Γνωρίζω όλους αυτούς τους νέους υπαλλήλους από την εκπαίδευση.

ghnorízo ólus aftús tus néus ipalílus apó tin ekpédhefsi

I know all these new employees from the training.

Οι υπογραφές όλων αυτών των νέων υπαλλήλων λείπουν ακόμα.

i ipoghrafés ólon aftón ton néon ipalílon lípun akóma

All these new employees' signatures are still missing.

After a preposition the whole block goes accusative together — there is no way to inflect part of it:

Σε όλες αυτές τις συζητήσεις κανείς δεν αναφέρει το κόστος.

se óles aftés tis sizitísis kanís dhen anaféri to kóstos

In all these discussions nobody ever mentions the cost.

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Build the phrase from the noun outwards, not from the English inwards. Fix the noun's gender, number and case first, then stamp that same triple onto every word in front of it. Learners who translate all these new employees left to right almost always get the first word right and the rest half-inflected.

Numerals sit inside the article

A numeral does not stack outside the article the way όλος and αυτός do — it stands between the article and the noun: τα δύο παιδιά, οι τρεις προτάσεις. Add a demonstrative and it goes out in front of the article, leaving the numeral where it was.

Αυτά τα τρία δωμάτια βλέπουν στη θάλασσα.

aftá ta tría dhomátia vlépun sti thálasa

These three rooms look out on the sea.

A demonstrative also has a second slot available to it, after the numeral: τα δύο αυτά βιβλία, οι τρεις αυτές προτάσεις are as good as αυτά τα δύο βιβλία, and are the commoner shape in writing. With "both" that second slot becomes the only one: Greek says και τα δύο ("and the two") as a fixed block, the demonstrative cannot get in front of και, so it has to slip in after the numeral.

Και τα δύο αυτά φάρμακα έχουν την ίδια δραστική ουσία.

ke ta dhío aftá fármaka échun tin ídhia dhrastikí usía

Both of these medicines have the same active ingredient.

Note also that όλος and a numeral rarely combine: for all three of them Greek reaches for the same block, και οι τρεις, rather than piling όλος on top of a number. Όλοι οι τρεις is not ungrammatical — it just sounds redundant, and native speakers do not reach for it. Which numerals inflect, and what case they impose, is on case with numbers.

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Learn και τα δύο / και οι τρεις as fixed shapes rather than as "and + the + number". They are Greek's ordinary way of saying both and all three, they take a possessive clitic like anything else (και οι δυο μας, "the two of us"), and the και is not translatable on its own.

Where the possessive clitic lands

In a stacked phrase the clitic goes to the end, after the noun, closing the whole thing:

Όλα αυτά τα βιβλία μου τα έχω διαβάσει τουλάχιστον δύο φορές.

óla aftá ta vivlía mu ta écho dhiavási tuláchiston dhío forés

I've read all these books of mine at least twice.

There is a second slot, in front of the article, and it opens up when όλος heads the phrase on its own: όλα μου τα βιβλία, όλη μου τη ζωή. The clitic has two possible hosts — the first stressed word of the phrase, or the noun — but the high slot is only usable when its host sits directly against the article. Add a demonstrative and όλος is no longer next to the article, so the high slot closes and the end position is the only one left.

Έχω πληρώσει όλους μου τους λογαριασμούς αυτόν τον μήνα.

écho plirósi ólus mu tus loghariazmús aftón ton mína

I've paid all my bills this month.

The docking rule and its other consequences are on possessive determiners.

όλα αυτά, αυτά όλα, and the floating όλα

With no noun at all, όλα αυτά is one of the most useful chunks in the language — "all this, all of this, this whole business":

Όλα αυτά μου φαίνονται υπερβολικά για ένα απλό ραντεβού.

óla aftá mu fénonde ipervoliká ya éna apló randevú

All this seems excessive to me for a simple appointment.

The reverse order αυτά όλα exists and is grammatical, but it is marked: it throws the weight onto the demonstrative, and you will meet it far less often. Treat όλα αυτά as the default and do not go looking for a meaning difference in most contexts.

A third possibility is not an ordering variant at all: όλος can detach from the phrase and drift to the end of the clause, still agreeing with what it totals — Αυτά τα βιβλία τα διάβασα όλα. That floating construction, and the reason the ending is then your only clue to what is being counted, is on όλος.

What refuses to stack

Only the article-keeping determiners can queue up: όλος, αυτός, εκείνος, numerals, ο ίδιος. The article-refusers — κάθε, κάποιος, μερικοί, κανένας and the interrogatives — are determiners that occupy the slot themselves, so there is no article for anything to stack on and no second determiner is possible. That single fact rules out a whole family of learner phrases before you ever have to memorise them, and it is why ο ίδιος behaves differently again: it takes the article in front of it, so a demonstrative stacks outside the pair (αυτοί οι ίδιοι άνθρωποι, "these very people"), as described on ο ίδιος. (The one qualification is ο κάθε, where an article does appear in front of κάθε; it adds emphasis or dismissiveness rather than opening a stacking slot — see κάθε and καθένας.)

Common Mistakes

1. Dropping the article inside the stack. The demonstrative does not absorb it, and neither does όλος.

❌ Όλα αυτά παιδιά είναι από την ίδια τάξη.

Incorrect — the article stays between the demonstrative and the noun: όλα αυτά τα παιδιά.

✅ Όλα αυτά τα παιδιά είναι από την ίδια τάξη και ξέρονται.

óla aftá ta pedhiá íne apó tin ídhia táksi ke kséronde

All these children are in the same class and know each other.

2. Putting όλος behind the article. όλος stands outside it, never between the article and the noun.

❌ Τα όλα αυτά ρούχα θέλουν σιδέρωμα.

Incorrect — όλος comes before the article: όλα αυτά τα ρούχα.

✅ Όλα αυτά τα ρούχα θέλουν σιδέρωμα και δεν έχω χρόνο.

óla aftá ta rúcha thélun sidhéroma ke dhen écho chróno

All these clothes need ironing and I haven't got the time.

3. Inflecting only part of the phrase. The commonest error at B2: the learner puts the noun and the article into the accusative and leaves the front of the queue nominative.

❌ Ξέρω όλοι αυτοί τους ανθρώπους από τη δουλειά.

Incorrect — every element goes accusative: όλους αυτούς τους ανθρώπους.

✅ Ξέρω όλους αυτούς τους ανθρώπους από τη δουλειά μου.

kséro ólus aftús tus anthrópus apó ti dhuliá mu

I know all these people from work.

4. Stopping the genitive halfway. όλων and αυτών are easy to get right and then the noun is left in the accusative.

❌ Το κόστος όλων αυτών τα ταξίδια ήταν τεράστιο.

Incorrect — the article and noun are genitive too: όλων αυτών των ταξιδιών.

✅ Το κόστος όλων αυτών των ταξιδιών ήταν τελικά τεράστιο.

to kóstos ólon aftón ton taksidhión ítan teliká terástio

The cost of all these trips turned out to be enormous.

5. Docking the clitic mid-phrase. The pre-article slot belongs to a phrase headed by όλος alone; with a demonstrative the clitic closes the phrase.

❌ Όλες αυτές μου οι φωτογραφίες είναι από την Κρήτη.

Incorrect — with a demonstrative in the phrase the clitic goes to the end: όλες αυτές οι φωτογραφίες μου.

✅ Όλες αυτές οι φωτογραφίες μου είναι από ένα ταξίδι στην Κρήτη.

óles aftés i fotoghrafíes mu íne apó éna taksídhi stin Kríti

All these photos of mine are from one trip to Crete.

Key Takeaways

  • The order is όλος / quantifier › demonstrative › ARTICLE › numeral › adjective › NOUN › possessive clitic, and the article is the pivot: όλος and αυτός in front of it, numerals and adjectives behind it.
  • Every element agrees in gender, number and case: όλοι αυτοί οι νέοι υπάλληλοιόλους αυτούς τους νέους υπαλλήλουςόλων αυτών των νέων υπαλλήλων. Half-inflecting the queue is the signature B2 error.
  • Numerals sit inside the article (αυτά τα τρία δωμάτια), and a demonstrative may sit either side of the numeral (τα τρία αυτά δωμάτια is equally good). With "both" the fixed block και τα δύο forces the post-numeral slot: και τα δύο αυτά φάρμακα.
  • A possessive clitic closes the phrase (όλα αυτά τα βιβλία μου); the pre-article slot (όλα μου τα βιβλία) is available only when όλος heads the phrase on its own.
  • όλα αυτά is the neutral standalone chunk for "all this"; αυτά όλα is a marked variant, and a floating όλα at the end of the clause is a different construction again.
  • Only the article-keeping determiners stack. κάθε, κάποιος, μερικοί, κανένας and the interrogatives fill the determiner slot themselves and cannot be combined with an article or a demonstrative.

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Related Topics

  • όλος: 'all' and 'whole'A2One Greek word covers English all, whole, everybody and everything — and the noun's number decides which: όλο το βιβλίο is 'the whole book' but όλα τα βιβλία is 'all the books'. Full paradigm of όλος (including the single genitive plural όλων), the floating use in Τα έφαγε όλα, and the idioms όλο και πιο, πάνω απ' όλα, είμαι όλος αυτιά.
  • Demonstratives: αυτός and εκείνοςA1Greek needs only two demonstratives where English has four — αυτός/αυτή/αυτό for whatever is near or in focus, εκείνος/εκείνη/εκείνο for whatever is further off in space, time or attention — with the full declension, the accompanying article (αυτό το βιβλίο), the same words standing alone as pronouns (Θέλω αυτό), and the regional τούτος.
  • Case Agreement Within the Noun PhraseA2Why Greek inflects three or four words where English inflects none — ο καλός άνθρωπος → του καλού ανθρώπου → τον καλό άνθρωπο — how to decline a whole phrase as one unit, why the endings need not look alike, and what this concord buys you in word-order freedom.