Learn Finnish: Aloitteesta keskusteltaneen valtuustossa tänään. - The initiative will probably be discussed in the council today.

Aloitteesta keskusteltaneen valtuustossa tänään.

The initiative will probably be discussed in the council today.

Breakdown of Aloitteesta keskusteltaneen valtuustossa tänään.

Questions & Answers about Aloitteesta keskusteltaneen valtuustossa tänään.

How is the potential mood passive formed in keskusteltaneen?

The verb is keskustella (verb type 3, to discuss). To form the passive potential, you take the passive stem keskustel- and add the passive potential marker -taneen. This gives us keskusteltaneen (will probably be discussed).

Why does it use the marker -taneen with a single 't' instead of -ttaneen?

The number of T's in the passive potential matches the other passive forms. For keskustella (type 3), the passive stem uses a single 't', which is easiest to see in the past passive keskusteltiin. Therefore, its potential passive marker is -taneen. Verb type 1 words, however, have two T's in the passive (like sanottiin or sanotaan) and take -ttaneen.

Why is the word for initiative in the elative case (aloitteesta)?

This is a quick case government refresher: the verb keskustella requires the topic being discussed to be in the elative case (-sta / -stä). In Finnish, you literally discuss about or out of a topic, so it cannot be a direct object.

If I am speaking casually, do I need to use the form keskusteltaneen?