Breakdown of Aloitteesta keskusteltaneen valtuustossa tänään.
tänään
today
keskustella
to discuss
aloite
initiative
valtuusto
council
Questions & Answers about Aloitteesta keskusteltaneen valtuustossa tänään.
How is the potential mood passive formed in keskusteltaneen?
Why does it use the marker -taneen with a single 't' instead of -ttaneen?
The number of T's in the passive potential matches the other passive forms. For keskustella (type 3), the passive stem uses a single 't', which is easiest to see in the past passive keskusteltiin. Therefore, its potential passive marker is -taneen. Verb type 1 words, however, have two T's in the passive (like sanottiin or sanotaan) and take -ttaneen.
Why is the word for initiative in the elative case (aloitteesta)?
This is a quick case government refresher: the verb keskustella requires the topic being discussed to be in the elative case (-sta / -stä). In Finnish, you literally discuss about or out of a topic, so it cannot be a direct object.
If I am speaking casually, do I need to use the form keskusteltaneen?
Not usually. The potential mood is quite formal and is mostly used in news, official reports, or literature. In everyday spoken Finnish, you would express this exact same idea using words like varmaan (probably) or ehkä (maybe) combined with the regular passive: Aloitteesta varmaan keskustellaan...
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