Generic 'You' and Impersonal Reference

Every language needs a way of talking about what happens to people in general, without saying which people. English has an unusually large kit for the job — you, they, one, people, and the agentless passive — and it switches between them mostly by register. Greek has a comparable kit, but the pieces are cut differently, and the difference that matters is not formality first. It is who is inside the generalisation and who is outside it.

The two workhorses sit at opposite ends of that question. The generic second person pulls the listener in: this is what happens to you, to me, to anyone. The third-person plural pushes the agent out: somebody did this, and it was not us. Get those two right and you have covered most of what a Greek speaker says in a day.

The generic second person singular

Greek's commonest impersonal is a verb in the second person singular with no addressee behind it. Grammatically it looks like you; semantically it means anyone at all, oneself included.

Όταν πεινάς, τρως ό,τι βρεις μπροστά σου.

ótan pinás, tros óti vris brostá su

When you're hungry, you eat whatever's in front of you.

Δεν ξέρεις ποτέ τι μπορεί να συμβεί, γι' αυτό έχε πάντα μετρητά μαζί σου.

dhen kséris poté ti borí na simví, yi' aftó éche pánda metritá mazí su

You never know what might happen, so always keep some cash on you.

Όσο πιο πολύ το σκέφτεσαι, τόσο χειρότερα νιώθεις.

óso pio polí to skéftese, tóso chirótera nióthis

The more you think about it, the worse you feel.

Why the second person and not some neutral third? Because the form is doing rhetorical work. It invites the listener to stand in the scenario and check the claim from the inside — the Greek equivalent of English you try getting a plumber in August. That is also why the generic second person is so much at home in complaints, in life advice and in proverbs, and so rare in a scientific paper.

Ό,τι σπείρεις θα θερίσεις.

óti spíris tha therísis

You reap what you sow. (proverb)

Θέλει υπομονή να μεγαλώσεις παιδί σε αυτή την πόλη.

théli ipomoní na meghalósis pedhí se aftí tin póli

It takes patience to raise a child in this city.

Everything that hangs off the verb goes generic with it. The possessive is σου, the object clitic is σε, and none of them points at the person you are talking to: μαζί *σου, μπροστά σου* in the examples above belong to the imagined everyman, not to your listener.

How to tell it from real address

Three signals, and the first is the reliable one.

No εσύ. The generic reading survives only while the subject pronoun is absent. Put εσύ in and the sentence snaps to a real addressee, because — as subject pronouns explains — an inserted pronoun in Greek always means something, and what it means here is you specifically, as opposed to other people. That is the opposite of a generalisation.

A gnomic frame. Generic second persons live in the present tense, under όταν, όσο, αν, πάντα, ποτέ — frames that describe how things go rather than what happened.

No answer is possible. Δεν ξέρεις ποτέ cannot be replied to with "yes I do". If the sentence would be odd to contradict, the you is not really you.

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The generic construction is the singular, and it stays singular no matter who you are speaking to — a shopkeeper using εσείς with a customer will still say Πας στην τράπεζα και περιμένεις. A second-person plural is heard as address to real people, so εσείς is not the polite version of this construction. If the singular feels too familiar for the occasion, the way out is κανείς or an impersonal construction, not the plural.

The third-person plural: somebody, and not us

The second Greek workhorse is a bare third-person plural verb with no subject and none recoverable. English reaches for theythey say, they've closed the road — or, more often, for an agentless passive. Greek uses the plural verb for both, and it is entirely neutral in register.

Λένε ότι θα ανοίξει καινούριο σούπερ μάρκετ στη γωνία.

léne óti tha aníksi kenúrio súper márket sti ghonía

They say a new supermarket's opening on the corner.

Έκλεισαν τον δρόμο για τη διαδήλωση και δεν περνάει λεωφορείο.

éklisan ton dhrómo ya ti dhiadhílosi ke dhen pernái leoforío

They've closed the road for the demonstration and no buses are getting through.

Σε ζητάνε στο τηλέφωνο, κάποιος από την τράπεζα.

se zitáne sto tiléfono, kápios apó tin trápeza

There's someone on the phone for you — somebody from the bank.

Note what the form does that the English passive cannot. The agent is unnamed but real, and it excludes the speaker — and usually the listener too. That is the whole semantic difference from the generic second person: Δεν ξέρεις ποτέ includes everybody, Λένε ότι includes nobody present. This is also why Greek prefers the plural verb to a passive when something is done to you: the sentence puts the victim up front as a clitic and leaves the culprit properly anonymous.

Μου έκλεψαν το πορτοφόλι στο μετρό και δεν κατάλαβα τίποτα.

mu éklepsan to portofóli sto metró ke dhen katálava típota

My wallet got stolen on the metro and I didn't notice a thing.

The same plural covers what English handles with people in X do Y:

Στην Ελλάδα τρώνε αργά το βράδυ, μη ζητήσεις τραπέζι στις εφτά.

stin Eládha tróne arghá to vrádhi, mi zitísis trapézi stis eftá

In Greece people eat late in the evening — don't ask for a table at seven.

And the two strategies chain happily inside a single sentence, which is how most complaints in Greek are actually built:

Πας στο δημόσιο, περιμένεις δύο ώρες και στο τέλος σου λένε ότι λείπει ένα χαρτί.

pas sto dhimósio, periménis dhío óres ke sto télos su léne óti lípi éna chartí

You go to a government office, wait two hours, and in the end they tell you a document is missing.

Πας and περιμένεις are you-the-everyman; λένε are the clerks. Two impersonals, two different sets of people, and no pronoun anywhere.

The mediopassive: the register of signs and laws

Where English writing uses the agentless passive — smoking is prohibited, the building is expected to be demolished — Greek uses the mediopassive, the -εται / -ονται forms. This is the (formal) end of the impersonal kit: signage, contracts, instructions, recipes, news reports and academic prose.

Απαγορεύεται το κάπνισμα σε όλους τους κλειστούς χώρους.

apaghorévete to kápnizma se ólus tus klistús chórus

Smoking is prohibited in all indoor spaces. (formal — signage)

Το φαγητό σερβίρεται από τις οκτώ μέχρι τις έντεκα.

to fayitó servírete apó tis októ méchri tis éndeka

Food is served from eight until eleven. (formal)

Ανακατεύεται καλά και προστίθεται το αλάτι στο τέλος.

anakatévete kalá ke prostíthete to aláti sto télos

Stir well and add the salt at the end. (formal — recipe style; in speech you would say ανακατεύεις)

The most useful thing to memorise is a minimal pair of registers. Λένε ότι… and Λέγεται ότι… mean the same thing and live in different worlds: the first is what you say to a neighbour, the second is what a newsreader says.

Λέγεται ότι το κτίριο θα κατεδαφιστεί μέσα στη χρονιά.

léyete óti to ktírio tha katedhafistí mésa sti chroniá

It is said that the building will be demolished within the year. (formal)

Note that λέγεται here is frozen in the third person singular — it has no subject to agree with, and it does not become plural because several people are doing the saying. The same is true of θεωρείται ότι, υπολογίζεται ότι, αναμένεται ότι. The wider behaviour of subjectless passives is on the impersonal passive.

κανείς and ο κόσμος: the two ways of saying "people"

English onehow can one live like that? — has a close Greek match in the nominative κανείς, stripped of its usual negative colouring. It is restricted: it works as a subject, in modal and rhetorical clauses, and it belongs to (formal) speech and journalism rather than to the kitchen table. Its ordinary polarity behaviour is on κανένας.

Πώς μπορεί κανείς να ζητήσει τέτοια πράγματα και να μη ντρέπεται;

pos borí kanís na zitísi tétia prághmata ke na mi drépete;

How can one ask for things like that and not be embarrassed? (formal, rhetorical)

The everyday counterpart is not a pronoun at all but a noun: ο κόσμος, literally "the world", used for people, everybody. It is enormously common in speech, and its one trap is that it is grammatically singular where English people is plural.

Ο κόσμος λέει ότι θα ξαναρχίσουν οι απεργίες τον Οκτώβρη.

o kózmos léi óti tha ksanarchísun i aperyíes ton Októvri

People are saying the strikes will start up again in October.

Τι θα πει ο κόσμος αν το μάθει;

ti tha pi o kózmos an to máthi;

What will people say if they find out?

For the loftiest version — statements about the human being as such — Greek uses the generic singular with the definite article, ο άνθρωπος, which is the register of definitions and aphorism and is set out on generic reference.

Including yourself: the first-person plural

One more option, and it is the one an essayist reaches for: a plain first-person plural that means we humans, all of us. It is the warmest of the strategies, because the speaker is unmistakably inside the claim.

Όσο μεγαλώνουμε, δυσκολευόμαστε να αλλάξουμε συνήθειες.

óso meghalónume, dhiskolevómaste na aláksume siníthies

As we get older, we find it harder to change our habits.

Choosing between them

StrategyExampleWho it coversRegister
2nd person singularΌταν πεινάς, τρως.anyone — listener pulled inneutral; dominant in speech
3rd person pluralΛένε ότι…an unnamed agent — speaker excludedneutral; everywhere
MediopassiveΛέγεται ότι…nobody in particular(formal) — signs, law, news, recipes
κανείςΠώς μπορεί κανείς…;anyone, abstractly(formal) — rhetoric, journalism
ο κόσμοςΟ κόσμος λέει…people at largeeveryday speech
1st person pluralΌσο μεγαλώνουμε…everyone, speaker includedneutral to essayistic
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English switches between you, they and one mainly for formality. Greek switches for membership first: does the generalisation include the person you are talking to (2nd singular), or is it about somebody else entirely (3rd plural)? Choose on that axis before you think about register, and the sentences will come out right.

Common Mistakes

1. Translating English "one" with bare ένας. Greek has no generic pronoun of that shape; the job goes to the second person, or to κανείς in a formal register. (With a noun after it, ένας can head a representative generic — ένας καλός δάσκαλος πρέπει να… — which is a different construction, described on generic reference.)

❌ Ένας δεν ξέρει ποτέ τι θα φέρει η επόμενη μέρα.

Incorrect — bare ένας cannot stand as a generic pronoun. Use the generic second person, or κανείς: Ποτέ δεν ξέρει κανείς…

✅ Δεν ξέρεις ποτέ τι θα φέρει η επόμενη μέρα.

dhen kséris poté ti tha féri i epómeni méra

You never know what tomorrow will bring.

2. Making ο κόσμος plural. English people are saying is plural, and the pull to match it is strong. ο κόσμος is grammatically singular, and the sentence to produce keeps a singular verb. A plural verb after a collective noun is not an error — Greek allows agreement κατά το νοούμενον, "by the sense", and the proverb below is built on it — but it is a marked and largely fixed option, and a learner reaching for it is almost always just importing the English plural.

Ο κόσμος λέει ότι άλλαξε ο διευθυντής.

o kózmos léi óti álakse o dhiefthindís

People are saying the manager's been replaced. (the default, and the one to produce)

Ο κόσμος το 'χουν τούμπανο κι εμείς κρυφό καμάρι.

o kózmos to chun túmbano ki emís krifó kamári

Everyone is trumpeting it about while we treat it as our private pride. (proverbial — agreement by sense, a plural verb after the collective noun)

3. Starting generic and drifting to the third person. Once you have opened with a generic second person, the whole sentence has to stay in it — verb, clitics and possessive alike.

❌ Όταν μένεις μόνος, μαθαίνει να μαγειρεύει.

Incorrect — the person cannot change halfway: Όταν μένεις μόνος, μαθαίνεις να μαγειρεύεις.

✅ Όταν μένεις μόνος, μαθαίνεις να μαγειρεύεις.

ótan ménis mónos, mathénis na mayirévis

When you live on your own, you learn to cook.

4. Making the impersonal passive agree with the people. λέγεται has no subject, so there is nothing for it to agree with.

❌ Λέγονται ότι θα αυξηθούν τα εισιτήρια.

Incorrect — the impersonal λέγεται is frozen in the third person singular: Λέγεται ότι…

✅ Λέγεται ότι θα αυξηθούν τα εισιτήρια από τον Ιανουάριο.

léyete óti tha afksithún ta isitíria apó ton Ianuário

It is said that ticket prices will go up from January. (formal)

5. Filling in εσύ out of English habit. Both of the following are correct Greek, and they are not the same sentence — the pronoun destroys the generalisation and turns it into a remark about the person in front of you.

Δεν προλαβαίνεις να κάνεις τίποτα με τέτοιο ωράριο.

dhen prolavénis na kánis típota me tétio orário

You can't get anything done with hours like these. (generic — anyone with this schedule)

Εσύ δεν προλαβαίνεις να κάνεις τίποτα με τέτοιο ωράριο.

esí dhen prolavénis na kánis típota me tétio orário

You don't get anything done with hours like these. (about the addressee, and faintly accusing)

Key Takeaways

  • The generic second person singular is Greek's default impersonal in speech: Όταν πεινάς, τρως, Δεν ξέρεις ποτέ. It pulls the listener into the scenario, and the possessives and clitics around it (σου, σε) go generic with it.
  • It survives only without εσύ, and only in the singular — a second-person plural is read as real address, and εσείς is not the polite version of it.
  • The third-person plural supplies an unnamed agent that excludes the speaker: Λένε ότι…, Έκλεισαν τον δρόμο, Μου έκλεψαν το πορτοφόλι. It is Greek's usual answer to the English agentless passive.
  • The mediopassive is the (formal) written strategy — Απαγορεύεται, σερβίρεται, Λέγεται ότι — and its impersonal forms are frozen in the third person singular.
  • κανείς is a (formal), nominative-only "one" for modal and rhetorical clauses; ο κόσμος is the everyday word for "people" and is grammatically singular.
  • A first-person plural generalises with the speaker inside it, which is why essays and speeches favour it.
  • Choose on membership before register: is the listener inside the generalisation, or is this about somebody else?

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